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Re: [polarsys-iwg] Does anyone interesting in a "simple" UML modeler package ?
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Hi,
I confirm that it does not involve making a new version of Papyrus but only to define a specific configuration of it.
The main question is then to define its content:
- Which diagrams, and for each diagram type which context of creation is enabled (e.g., do we allow class diagram creation only on either Package and Class, only Package, only Class, other ?) ?
- For each diagram, what the UML model elements to enable/hide?
In addition to that version "Papyrus for Lightweight-UML", we will provide a tutorial in order to assist anyone that would like to modify the configuration in order to extend or reduce its perimeter.
Best... Sébastien.
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De : polarsys-iwg-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:polarsys-iwg-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx] De la part de GAUFILLET, PIERRE
Envoyé : mercredi 2 juillet 2014 19:27
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Objet : Re: [polarsys-iwg] Does anyone interesting in a "simple" UML modeler package ?
I am pretty sure most people use only a couple of diagrams when teaching or deploying something as complex as UML: class diagram, use cases, state machines and sequence diagrams are common choices for example. Otherwise you lose your students or users very quickly :)
Anyway: the idea is not to develop something completely new without interaction with Papyrus team, but rather to customize as far as possible using the high level mechanisms, and propose improvements and fixes to Papyrus when needed.
Pierre
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De : polarsys-iwg-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:polarsys-iwg-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx] De la part de GRANIER Bernard (MORPHO) Envoyé : 02 July 2014 6:58 PM À : Polarsys IWG Objet : Re: [polarsys-iwg] Does anyone interesting in a "simple" UML modeler package ?
It seems a good option for a lot's of readers ... why not
But will this version "solved" the fact that graphic elements cannot be drawn easily ? Drawing a line could be quite complex with Papyrus and the place of graphic element is strongly constraint And will it be another eclipse project or be included in the existing Papyrus ? There are already a lot of projects around modeling, one more could add some "confusion"
I am afraid to be not convinced by the choice ...
What does a simple mean ?
Because when you teach UML, you teach all diagrams maybe not profile diagram, but most of the others including deployment diagram ...
Bernard Granier
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Objet : Re: [polarsys-iwg] Does anyone interesting in a "simple" UML modeler package ?
+1
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De : Marc Pantel [mailto:Marc.Pantel@xxxxxxxxxxx] Envoyé : Wednesday, July 02, 2014 06:42 PM À : Polarsys IWG <polarsys-iwg@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Objet : Re: [polarsys-iwg] Does anyone interesting in a "simple" UML modeler package ?
+ 1.
And, it must be rock solid… (student-proof, the strongest quality criteria, it is hard to guess what a student will do, and usually he will do worse)
MArc
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Le 2 juil. 2014 à 13:01, GAUFILLET, PIERRE <pierre.GAUFILLET@xxxxxxxxxx> a écrit :
> +1 too
>
>
> Pierre
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> [mailto:polarsys-iwg-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx] De la part de FAUDOU raphael
> Envoyé : 02 July 2014 8:50 AM À : Polarsys IWG Objet : Re:
> [polarsys-iwg] Does anyone interesting in a "simple" UML modeler package ?
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> Hi Xavier,
>
> very good proposition. I strongly support it.
> best
> raphaël
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> Raphaël Faudou
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> Le 2 juil. 2014 à 08:11, PLAVIS, Xavier <xavier.plavis@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> a écrit :
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>
> Hi,
>
> During EclipseCon France held in Toulouse on the 17th-18th of June, some of us have shared an idea.
>
> We imagine to have a “simple” UML modeler based on a customization of
> Papyrus 1.0 (the Luna release)
>
> Papyrus 1.0 has evolved a lot and offer a large set of feature for customization.
>
>
> The goal of such a package will be to:
>
> 1. Fully describe and comment how to build a customized tool based on Papyrus
>
> 2. Shared a dedicated tests suite on such a customization.
>
> 3. Have a basic UML modeler in order to train Student or new comer on UML language,
>
>
> In the first release, we could imagine having a limited subset of diagrams in order to have a “short term” schedule.
>
> This could be a part of Polarsys Packaging Project (3P), as a dedicated package for UML modelling.
>
> What do you think of such a proposition ?
>
>
> Xavier PLAVIS
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