RE: [orbit-dev] Orbit and bundles under "parallel IP for mature projects

[David M Williams <david_williams@xxxxxxxxxx>]

Elsewhere (bug 241243), I've said I don't think we need any special marking, since we do list the CQ, and since there are automatic IP Logs these days,
but I've also sent a note to the legal staff to clarify explicitly.

We'll see what they say. (If they insist, I'd prefer some automated CQ query, so we don't have to manually update and re-generate our files when the state of CQ's change).

Thanks,


Simon Kaegi ---03/10/2009 02:29:40 PM---As we get down to the wire the ipzilla bug will have a release keyword like "galileo" to indicate wh

From:	Simon Kaegi <Simon_Kaegi@xxxxxxxxxx>
To:	Orbit Developer discussion <orbit-dev@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Date:	03/10/2009 02:29 PM
Subject:	RE: [orbit-dev] Orbit and bundles under "parallel IP formature projects"
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As we get down to the wire the ipzilla bug will have a release keyword like "galileo" to indicate which release it is scheduled for.
For example:
https://dev.eclipse.org/ipzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3044

The Parallel IP process does not permit us to ship libraries in release candidate until they're formally approved so that's why I was suggesting adding a release name to the iplog.
Now that I look at again though I think referencing the CQ is sufficient.

-Simon

"Oberhuber, Martin" ---03/10/2009 02:04:50 PM---Hi Simon,

From:	"Oberhuber, Martin" <Martin.Oberhuber@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To:	"Orbit Developer discussion" <orbit-dev@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Date:	03/10/2009 02:04 PM
Subject:	RE: [orbit-dev] Orbit and bundles under "parallel IP formature projects"

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Hi Simon,

> I like what you propose but we might add the release with which the parallel IP process is associated.

I'm not sure if I understand... for me it went like this:
1. CQ for Commons Net againt DSDP-TM --> approved under parallel IP
2. "ATO" CQ for adding to Orbit --> approved under parallel IP

On Orbit downloads, we are only referencing CQ # (2), I'm not sure how that relates to "releases" ?

Cheers,
--
Martin Oberhuber, Senior Member of Technical Staff, Wind River
Target Management Project Lead, DSDP PMC Member
http://www.eclipse.org/dsdp/tm

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From: orbit-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:orbit-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Simon Kaegi
Sent: Dienstag, 10. März 2009 18:52
To: Orbit Developer discussion
Subject: Re: [orbit-dev] Orbit and bundles under "parallel IP formature projects"

Glad you asked.
Up until now I've just been waiting for the IP process to fully complete before checking the library into Orbit. I look after a bunch of libraries that fall into this category and could benefit by checking them in now.
I like what you propose but we might add the release with which the parallel IP process is associated.

-Simon

"Oberhuber, Martin" ---03/10/2009 11:08:36 AM---Hi all,

From:	"Oberhuber, Martin" <Martin.Oberhuber@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To:	"Orbit Developer discussion" <orbit-dev@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Date:	03/10/2009 11:08 AM
Subject:	[orbit-dev] Orbit and bundles under "parallel IP for mature projects"

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Hi all,

I recently added JSch-0.1.41 and Commons-Net-2.0 to Orbit.
Both are "approved under the terms of parallel IP for mature projects".

This basically says, we can check in to CVS because an initial scan of a diff has been made, compared to a previous version that has been approved before. The one condition to be met is, that all downloads of such "not yet fully approved bundles" must be clearly marked:
https://dev.eclipse.org/ipzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3044#c14

I think, that the actual download also needs clearer markup in the table that lists all bundles:
http://download.eclipse.org/tools/orbit/downloads/drops/S20090307012903/ 
for instance a separate column with a red marker or icon indicating that IP is in progress, plus a hover that explains what it means? -- Unfortunately, I have no idea how to actually do that. And, before filing a bugzilla, I wanted to solicit opinions here. 

Background Info:

What does work nicely today, is the IP Log information (based on my edits to the IP Log XML File):
(1) set the status to "in-progress" and
(2) add a note clarifying the status.
This does nicely display when diving into the IP Logs from the download page (click on com.jcraft.jsch which is the 4th bundle from here):
http://download.eclipse.org/tools/orbit/downloads/drops/S20090307012903/iplog-S20090307012903.html
and you see this:

Version: 0.1.41 (web) (cvs) status:red
License: JCraft License (modified BSD-style) (CQ 3040)
Contact: Martin Oberhuber
Note: Committed under the terms of Parallel IP for Mature Projects. Only preliminary IP review based on an incremental diff has been performed. Full approval for use within Eclipse is stll pending.

Thoughts?

Cheers,
--
Martin Oberhuber, Senior Member of Technical Staff, Wind River
Target Management Project Lead, DSDP PMC Member
http://www.eclipse.org/dsdp/tm

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