Re: [orbit-dev] Another exception to normal naming scheme: org.apache.xe

[David M Williams <david_williams@xxxxxxxxxx>]

> what's preventing a split into three different
distributions?

Just the investigation into how this
jar, distributed by Xerces, differs from that available from 
the oriignal sources (the xerces (xml-common)
web pages says it differs a little, but it's not spelled out anywhere).


> since the
affected API's are now part of the standard and included in the JRE (I
> think starting with 1.4).

case in point, the versions in various JRE's, even
in 1.4, are slightly different. 
And, very different in 1.3. I suspect they are the
same in 1.5, but still subject 
to be "out of date" with the what ever is
used by the latest and greatest Xerces implementation. 

> Just out
of curiosity, who needs these interfaces separately today?

You mean in Eclipse? No one _needs_
it, AFAIK ... some just thought it a good idea to be a bit smaller 
if someone was only using a one of the
interfaces (if I recall right, though, javax.xml and org.sax both depend
on org.w3c.dom, so in practice would
never save too too much  .. and, as it is, is only 200K now. (Which
is 
why I am not too motiviated to do the
investigation on wha and how different from the originals). 

So ... did you have an alternative name
that would be better than org.apache.xerces.xml.apis?

Thomas Hallgren <thomas@xxxxxxx>
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Hi David,
what's preventing a split into three different distributions? In my 
opinion, naming it org.apache.xerces adds to the confusion since the 
affected API's are now part of the standard and included in the JRE (I
think starting with 1.4).

Just out of curiosity, who needs these interfaces separately today?

Regards,
Thomas Hallgren

David M Williams wrote:
>
> Fellow orbiteers,
>
> I would like to get your review and confirmation that the name I've
> come up with for "xml-apis.jar" is now acceptable.
>
> To refresh your memory, this jar, currently named org.w3c.dom, 
> distributed by Xerces is actually a combination of three popular xml
> releated standard interfaces,
> javax.xml , org.w3c.dom, and org.sax. Hence, any package-based name
we 
> picked would be a bit confusing. Second, there might
> eventually be specific bundles for each of these three standard 
> interfaces, so we wanted to "leave room" for those.
>
> At first, I tried just lterally the name of the jar, such as xml.apis,
> but, that seemed a bit  too short and not really using a unique
> namespace,
> so, I thought to add org.apache.xerces, which I think is good, since
> it makes it more obvous that it "comes from" the xerces
distribution.
>
> My thought would be to leave both of them in place for a few weeks,
> after announcing to cross-project and then removing the
> old org.w3c.dom.
>
> Sound ok?
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