Re: AW: [jwt-dev] View extension point and default views

[Marc Dutoo <marc.dutoo@xxxxxxxxxxx>]

Hi Chris Rodrigue

Later on the right way should be to let vendors specify their own 
customized view file in their plugins.

I'd say even the default view file should be in its own plugin that 
would be separated from the view plugin, so if vendors want to have the 
views feature but not the default views, they just have to take the 
views plugin but not the default views file plugin. This should remove 
the requirement for a "disabling" extension point, which is indeed uncommon.

On another topic, such discussions should be in the bugzilla once the 
appropriate bug exists.

I strongly advise all (present and next future) JWT developers to listen 
to ALL JWT bug changes (get an eclipse bugzilla account, then look at 
the bugzilla preferences), so they are aware of everything that happens 
in JWT development (not excessive usually), rather than only registering 
to specific bugs.

Regards,
Marc

Christian Saad a écrit :
> Hi Rodrigue,
>
> you are right, currently it's not possible to deactivate the default views
> in an elegant way without removing the internal view files or deactivating
> the loading mechanism. We're currently planning to redo the whole view stuff
> (e.g. bugs 249437, 248565 or 249437) to give it a better internal layout and
> add additional features like changing the names in the palette/properties
> view/outline along with the figure, allowing elements to have different
> positions in different views and introducing a nice XML-based configuration
> format and - of course - a new view editor. 
> So in the course of this restructuring we're going to consider your request
> (I opened a bug: 256134), however I'm not quite sure if using an extension
> point would be the right approach since these are usually used to add
> functions rather that switching them off. Also, different plugins that are
> loaded at the same time could cause conflicting requirements. Would you be
> ok if we put an option in the Eclipse preferences menu that allows to switch
> off the default views or would this be not sufficient to your demands?
>
> Regards,
> Chris
>
>
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> > -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
> > Von: jwt-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jwt-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx]
> > Im Auftrag von Rodrigue Le Gall
> > Gesendet: Freitag, 21. November 2008 16:37
> > An: Java Workflow Toolbox
> > Betreff: [jwt-dev] View extension point and default views
> >
> > Hi community,
> >
> > I need to associate a FigureFactory to a View. To do that I use the
> > view extension point. It's pretty cool. I have my new view with my
> > figurefactory.
> >
> > But the default views are still here. I haven't found a pretty way to
> > delete these views. Actually I delete the view files in the JWT plugin
> > (in views folder).
> > Is there another way to do that directly in the configuration of my
> > plugin?
> >
> > If not, I suggest an extension point in order to choose if we want to
> > use the default views.
> >
> > Thoughts?
> >
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