| Re: [january-dev] Newbie using January |
Sorry for jumping in without being fully familiar with what's happening, but as a happy user of the org.eclipse.january core plugin* I think these troubles with the non-core plugins (xtext, geometry, form, etc) could be solved via p2 features...couldn't it?
Perhaps have a 'core/dataset' feature (that has only the org.eclipse.january plugin and source), and then 1 or more other features to hold xtext, geometry, and form plugins.
I see from the 1.0 repo here: http://download.eclipse.org/january/releases/1.0.0/repositor that there are currently no features...just plugins. Couldn't features help? (As I understand it Tycho handles features pretty easily and you seem to be using tycho).y/
Scott
*What I mean by this is that we are happily using the january dataset and metadata APIs from org.eclipse.january for a Kura-based Analytics Framework.
On 1/19/2017 8:44 AM, Peter.Chang@xxxxxxxxxxxxx wrote:
Hi all,
It seems that we are at an impasse. The additional dependencies from the geometry and form plugins are causing concern to potential January users who are just interested in the nD datasets as advertised by our marketing -- no-one expects the other parts!
Can I propose that we modify the releng so that dataset-only build is possible?
Best wishes,
Peter
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g [mailto:january-dev-bounces@eclipse.org ] On Behalf Of McCaskey, Alex
Sent: 19 January 2017 14:33
To: Jay Billings <jayjaybillings@xxxxxxxxx>; january developer discussions <january-dev@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: [january-dev] Newbie using January
Yea sure I can do that. I'll take some time out this morning to look at it.
Alex
On Jan 19, 2017, at 9:21 AM, Jay Jay Billings <jayjaybillings@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Alex McCaskey can probably give it a look. I'm traveling today.
Jay
On Jan 19, 2017 9:17 AM, "Jonah Graham" <jonah@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
(accidentally removed january-dev from last reply, Robert can you
re-reply on the mailing list too please :-)
Hi Robert,
Someone who is familiar with the code needs to review it. Who would
you recommend? Jay has started on it.
Jonah
~~~
Jonah Graham
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www.kichwacoders.com
On 19 January 2017 at 13:34, Smith, Robert W. <smithrw@xxxxxxxx> wrote:
> Jonah,
>
> Pull Request #28 fixes bug #25 and most of #26, leaving only the updates to the README file and the addition of geometry and form examples, which are obviously non-essential. I believe this addresses most of Torkild's original concerns about these packages, though I'll be happy to also rename the *.xtext bundles to *.dsl if that would be clearer. I notice that multiple other pull requests have been merged in since two weeks ago when I submitted it, and was wondering what the was left to be done to allow it to be accepted.
>
> Robert
> ________________________________________
> From: Jonah Graham <jonah@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Thursday, January 19, 2017 7:23 AM
> To: january developer discussions
> Cc: Smith, Robert W.
> Subject: Re: [january-dev] Newbie using January
>
> Hi Jay,
>
> I think we need for now to get to a working January and then build up.
> I am glad to hear that Robert is close, and when it is ready it should
> be submitted. But at the moment the January project is suffering
> because of these outstanding issues.
>
> I don't believe anyone is talking about re-hashing old issues. simply
> getting January to the point we have all agreed on. At the moment the
> code in January does not meet that requirement so we keep
> meta-rehashing.
>
> Thanks,
> Jonah
>
> ~~~
> Jonah Graham
> Kichwa Coders Ltd.
> www.kichwacoders.com
>
>
> On 19 January 2017 at 12:17, Jay Jay Billings <jayjaybillings@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>> Everyone,
>>
>> Even though there were very good reasons to include the form and geometry
>> bundles from the beginning, I regret that everyone keeps forgetting or
>> ignoring those reasons and that these bundles keep causing trouble for the
>> community. Robert Smith did, in fact, just switch ICE and EAVP over to use
>> January, but he is still testing in a branch and hasn't merged those changes
>> yet.
>>
>> I don't mind continuing to fix the form and geometry bundles to keep them in
>> January because that only makes them better and helps the project, in my
>> opinion. However, at this point I an not keen on continuing to rehash old
>> arguments about why we wanted a general purpose data structures project in
>> Science because I think it is unhealthy. I would much rather let the January
>> Project Leads and committers make the decision on where the project should
>> go.
>>
>> Jonah and Peter, I leave it to you at this point to either accept Matt's PR,
>> removing the parts of January that ICE and EAVP currently need, or simply
>> closing it and asking Robert and I to clean up our mess, including
>> addressing issues described in the second and fourth paragraph of Torkild's
>> email. I'll happily support either path.
>>
>> Jay
>>
>> On Thu, Jan 19, 2017 at 5:48 AM, <Matt.Gerring@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>
>>> Thanks! :)
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: january-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxg
>>> [mailto:january-dev-bounces@eclipse.org ] On Behalf Of Jonah Graham
>>> Sent: 19 January 2017 10:46
>>> To: january developer discussions
>>> Subject: Re: [january-dev] Newbie using January
>>>
>>> > Later I propose to put a build hook on the pull request. This is done
>>> > by asking for admin from eclipse webmaster and adding the hook on
>>> > github. The build appears to be maven, so there are various options
>>> > for that in github J
>>>
>>> The build hook for travis is already enabled, just needs the travis file
>>> contributing AFAIK.
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