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Re: [jakartaee-platform-dev] [jakartabatch-dev] Jakarta Batch + CDI integration POLL results
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Hi Reza,
There were 8 more responses. I didn't bother sending out a final email since the net was unchanged: a majority preference for
| A new direction - make everything a CDI bean |
Though I had updated the table in the tracking issue: https://github.com/eclipse-ee4j/jakartaee-platform/issues/441Thank you to all who helped with the discussion and then Reza especially for publicizing the poll.
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Scott Kurz
WebSphere / Open Liberty Batch and Developer Experience
skurz@xxxxxxxxxx
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"Reza Rahman" ---01/03/2022 06:05:08 PM---Was the final tally ever shared? Just wanted to know if we got a few more votes in the end.From: "Reza Rahman" <reza_rahman@xxxxxxxxx>To: "jakartabatch developer discussions" <jakartabatch-dev@xxxxxxxxxxx>, "jakartaee-platform developer discussions" <jakartaee-platform-dev@xxxxxxxxxxx>Date: 01/03/2022 06:05 PMSubject: [EXTERNAL] Re: [jakartaee-platform-dev] [jakartabatch-dev] Jakarta Batch + CDI integration POLL resultsSent by: "jakartaee-platform-dev" <jakartaee-platform-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Was the final tally ever shared? Just wanted to know if we got a few more votes in the end.On 12/5/21 3:39 PM, Scott Kurz wrote:
Reza,
Please by all means, try to push for more results. Maybe there's a way to publicize via Jakarta One this week?
If we get any more I'll update the PR capturing the details.
I'd just sent that out noticing the count seems to have stopped (it's still at 63, same as when I sent the email).
Thanks,
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Scott Kurz
WebSphere / Open Liberty Batch and Developer Experience
skurz@xxxxxxxxxx
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"Reza Rahman" ---12/04/2021 12:35:46 PM---Scott, It’s OK to move forward with status quo. Shouldn’t we wait a bit for the results though? Less
From: "Reza Rahman" <reza_rahman@xxxxxxxxx>
To: "jakartaee-platform developer discussions" <jakartaee-platform-dev@xxxxxxxxxxx>, "jakartabatch-dev@xxxxxxxxxxx" <jakartabatch-dev@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: 12/04/2021 12:35 PM
Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: [jakartabatch-dev] [jakartaee-platform-dev] Jakarta Batch + CDI integration POLL results
Sent by: "jakartabatch-dev" <jakartabatch-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Scott,
It’s OK to move forward with status quo.
Shouldn’t we wait a bit for the results though? Less than a hundred votes is very low still and I was going to do a final push since my understanding is that the votes are open until December 15?
Can you let me know so I can plan accordingly?
Reza Rahman
Jakarta EE Ambassador, Author, Blogger, Speaker
Please note views expressed here are my own as an individual community member and do not reflect the views of my employer.
From: jakartaee-platform-dev <jakartaee-platform-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx> on behalf of Scott Kurz <skurz@xxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Thursday, December 2, 2021 10:19 AM
To: jakartabatch-dev@xxxxxxxxxxx; jakartaee-platform-dev@xxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [jakartaee-platform-dev] Jakarta Batch + CDI integration POLL results
I think we can report the results now (though I didn't explicitly list an end date, the responses seem to have stopped):
Total responses: 63
Option 1 - Adopt the current/legacy Platform spec approach 22 % (14/63)
Option 2 - Formalize the Batch Status quo - 22 % (14/63)
Option 3 - A new direction - make everything a CDI bean 56% (35/63) |
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So I suggest two actions.
1. As mentioned earlier https://www.eclipse.org/lists/jakartaee-platform-dev/msg02989.html, for Batch 2.1 and EE 10 we codify the status quo (go with option 2), since that is essentially already supported by the existing implementations that do offer CDI integration
2. Going forwards we open a platform-level discussion to consider the Option 3, make everything a bean approach winning the majority of votes (which again, REST is considering).
For this I opened: https://github.com/eclipse-ee4j/jakartaee-platform/issues/441
And again, a key point this whole discussion has brought up is this should really be a platform-level effort and decision. Romain brought up several challenges/objections which seemed persuasive to me ... so if the Platform wants this badly enough, we'll have to deal with that collectively. |
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