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Steve,
Getting back to your original question... Have you considered using the
Eclipse Transformer on these 3rd party dependencies? We would still
need a location to store the updated binaries (either in the gf repo, or
maybe some place common like Eclipse Orbit). And, we probably still
need to get a reading from the EMO on any IP concerns with this approach.
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I would recommend Talking to the Apache Folks here but Looking at e.g.
https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/FILEUPLOAD-291which requested
using javax.portlet.ActionRequest (not subject to Jakarta btw either, I
have no ideas, if the Portlet project plans to join Jakarta EE or the
technology is too “legacy” for that?) it was not updated for nearly 2
years now, so the project does not seem too active, although a few tiny
API changes were done about 2 weeks ago:
https://github.com/apache/commons-fileupload/tree/master/src/main
So I would say talk to them, and if that’s not likely to happen at
Apache soon enough and the Glassfish team can justify and maintain such
a fork, then it could be worth considering.
P.s.: Does Glassfish 6 also plan to use the Java Module System, because
if you really had to do such an internal fork, then it would be best to
clearly mark that kind of module as consumable by Glassfish only.
Werner
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It’s used internally in GlassFish. We can do whatever is compliant with
the ASL. However that is why I am asking.
Steve
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„We will be moving it to the new Namespace“ I don’t think you unless you
are an Apache member or Commons File Upload committer are allowed to do
that.
Not unless you fork it to a completely new Project that has Nothing to
do with Apache and does not use org.apache.
Werner
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That is the question I am asking. We aren’t about to rip out Common File
Upload so we will be moving it to the new namespace in order to ship
GlassFish 6. Question is do we have a preferred way of doing this and
what are the IP rules for Eclipse?
Steve
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tojakarta
As Long as Apache Commons does not upgrade to Jakarta EE 8 or 9, we have
to use what’s there even if it is Based on an older Version of Java EE ;-)
Maybe the more Apache affine ones here like David could help or ask the
Commons committers to deal with that, but I don’t see how that would
correlate exactly with Jakarta EE 9 or Glassfish 6.
Werner
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Jackson was used before JSON-P/JSON-B were a thing in GlassFish we could
try to remove it but it could take a while.
Commons File Upload depends on javax.servlet and the GlassFish
administration console uses it to upload deployments.
Steve
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Hi,
Jackson, that’s interesting, why is it used in parallel or instead of
Jakarta JSON (Processing and Binding)?
I don’t see why Apache Commons File Upload should Change anything to
Jakarta, or do you mean a new Version of it for use by GlassFish 6?
I guess either someone at Eclipse like Wayne or Ivar should be able to
help with the IP/CQ entries.
Werner
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jakarta
Hi All,
On the Eclipse Glassfish project we have found a number of external 3^rd
party dependencies that need updating to the new namespace before we can
release GlassFish 6. For example Apache Commons File Upload and Jackson
and likely others as we get closer to release. Can anybody advise on how
we should go about modifying and shipping these components both from a
preferred technical approach and from an IP/CQ perspective?
Thanks
Steve
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