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[jakarta.ee-spec] Jakarta EE Spec Committee Approved Meeting Minutes - November 15th, 2023

Jakarta EE Spec Committee - November 15th, 2023

Attendees (present in bold):


Kenji Kazumura - Fujitsu

Emily Jiang - IBM - Tom Watson

Ed Bratt - Oracle - Dmitry Kornilov

Andrew Pielage - Payara - Petr Aubrecht

David Blevins - Tomitribe - Jean-Louis Monteiro, Cesar Hernandez

Ivar Grimstad - PMC Representative

Marcelo Ancelmo - Participant Member -  Abraham Marin-Perez

Werner Keil - Committer Member

Jun Qian - Primeton Information Technologies - Enterprise Member

Zhai Luchao -  Shandong Cvicse Middleware Co. - Enterprise Member


Guests - Jakarta EE 11 co-release coordinators: Ed Burns, Arjan Tijms

 

Eclipse Foundation: Tanja Obradovic, Wayne Beaton, Paul Buck (chair)


Past business / action items:

  • Approval is requested for the minutes from the November 1st, 2023 meeting as drafted - Approved.


Agenda:

See the spreadsheet for updates.

  • Discussion will get underway on the Platform Project regarding the CDI ballot that is underway regarding the contents of the CDI EE specification

  • Ongoing work on and resolve Specification Committee’s process enhancements items including those identified in the Jakarta EE 10 retrospective:

    • Issues with the “enhancement” label are here 

    • Enhancement labeled issues in a project board is here 

  • Recommendation: Like MicroProfile, include the EMO Release Review in the Jakarta EE (JESP) Release Review template. Talk to Maria Teresa and do for Jakarta EE what she is doing for MicroProfile to embed the EMO’s CR template

[11/15] Checked in on status, remains in progress.

DONE

  • Can optional tests be updated in a Service Release? See the TCK Process 2nd paragraph in How Tests May be Added or Changed in a TCK

    • Currently this is not a problem (or need) for Jakarta EE, it is however a real situation w/ MicroProfile. Recommendation is to discuss and work out a proposal within the MicroProfile project and keep the Jakarta EE Specification Committee updated.

[11/15] Checked in on status. This was discussed w/ MicroProfile, Jakarta will align w/ MP’s practice of allowing changes to optional tests in a service release. Emily will create PR to update the Jakarta TCK Process.

  • Merging request from Scott Marlow: specifications/pull/668 + promote the XML Binding TCK 4.0.1

    • Scott also asked: “ I think that Ivar and previously Scott Stark have been mostly promoting the Specs which has been great but I would like to see others taking turns with the SPEC/TCK promotions in case Ivar is on vacation or busy with something else and a TCK/SPEC promotion needs to be made.”

Ivar explained the necessary steps to do the TCK promotion and ask that committee members check that they have the access/authority to do the promotion. Also see the Spec Committee Operations guide and the mentor checklist

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