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Re: [jakarta.ee-community] Thoughts on JakartaEE
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Actually I guess that might change with Jakarta EE because it should not take 2 or 3 years any more between Jakarta EE updates even if it is only some spec.
Cen,
absolutely. I also consider Jakarta EE 8 as the stable base, the "boring OS" with less frequent releases.
For me MicroProfile is the reflection of current e.g. CNCF, also upcoming, standards with faster release cadence.
So far, I always used them together,
--adam
> On 23. Sep 2019, at 18:47, cen <cen.is.imba@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
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> Hi,
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> After reading a ton of mailing list material and blog posts I'd like to share some thoughts on JakartaEE.
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> I use a lot of JavaEE and MP daily and contribute to one of MP framework implementations.
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> The javax naming is very unfortunate but won't really be a big problem for us microservice users since we can update one service at a time. Other than refactoring costs I don't see anything problematic, I think application server users will have much more trouble.
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> MP was the best thing that happened to JavaEE because it allowed us to take the stable and mature modules from JavaEE and combine them with modern approaches that were missing in the spec. Seeing how successful MP has been so far, I wouldn't merge the projects but collaboration between projects to make specs more interop is welcome. Duplicating specs for roughly the same things would be the major fail.
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> I have mixed feelings about JakartaEE adding a ton of new features to attract new users. While some new features would be welcome, I see the core modules pretty feature complete. I am not sure people would switch massively to JakartaEE for any reason but I do know existing developers will probably stay if platform feels alive which was not the case for the past few years. As an existing user I am more concerned about the state of some important reference implementations with long standing bugs which are an annoyance in day-to-day work. Looking at bugs.eclipse.org - Eclipselink for example screams of abandonware although now that all projects are on github contributing is thankfully much easier. I already had some positive experience contributing to upstream RI so that's feels good.
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> Best regards, cen
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