Re: [jakarta.ee-community] Jakarta EE 8 Specs in PDF

["Markus KARG" <markus@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

Werner,

First, Bill Shannon asked us NOT to refer to JCP. In fact, I had this reference in the spec, and was asked explicitly to remove that. Even a long-term Java pro asked me yesterday, that it is such confusing that he in fact does NOT understand what spec is actually to be considered now.

Second, 100% of my customers ask for news on JAX-RS, so I will call it that.

Third, it is not true that "most" people call it Jakarta EE. That might be a wish of the working group. Most people I talk with still ask me for news on "Java EE" which we must not say anymore, too.

-Markus

 

 

Von: jakarta.ee-community-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jakarta.ee-community-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx] Im Auftrag von Werner Keil
Gesendet: Mittwoch, 11. September 2019 21:11
An: Jakarta EE community discussions
Betreff: Re: [jakarta.ee-community] Jakarta EE 8 Specs in PDF

 

It's not hard, you can find all of them on jcp.org.

 

Also try to use the term Jakata REST rather than JAX-RS, most people don't call Jakarta EE or Java EE J2EE after all these years ;-)

Werner

 

 

 

On Wed, Sep 11, 2019 at 8:07 PM Markus KARG <markus@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

Actually it is hard for Jakarte EE 8 spec readers to find the Java EE 8 specs. The reason is that Bill Shannon (IIRC) enforced that existing references form the boilerplate specs to the Java EE specs have to get removed -- so we removed them, at least for JAX-RS. It is rather funny that now you say, people shall read exactly those specs… How shall they locate them?

-Markus

 

Von: jakarta.ee-community-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jakarta.ee-community-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx] Im Auftrag von Kevin Sutter
Gesendet: Mittwoch, 11. September 2019 10:59
An: Jakarta EE community discussions
Betreff: Re: [jakarta.ee-community] Jakarta EE 8 Specs in PDF

 

Arjan is correct.  We have complete Specifications for the Platform, Web Profile, CDI, and Bean Validation.  The rest of the Components have these skeletal specifications and rely on the Javadoc for Jakarta EE 8.  These other Specifications will be filed as they complete their copyright and IP clearances.  We decided it was best to go this route instead of waiting for all of the Component specs to clear.  Appreciate your patience.

I covered some of these process-related items in my "Jakarta for dummEEs" talk yesterday at the JakartaOne Livestream conference.  Replays are available:
https://www.crowdcast.io/e/nztuljys/1

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From:        arjan tijms <arjan.tijms@xxxxxxxxx>
To:        Jakarta EE community discussions <jakarta.ee-community@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Date:        09/11/2019 09:34 AM
Subject:        [EXTERNAL] Re: [jakarta.ee-community] Jakarta EE 8 Specs in PDF
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Hi,

It's "correct" in the sense that the real spec documents haven't been transferred yet. The current ones that are released (most of them) are just the bare minimum. We call them boilerplate specs.

We expect that sometime in the future the existing Java EE spec documents or a subset of those will be transferred.

Kind regards,
Arjan



On Wed, Sep 11, 2019 at 4:30 PM Gregor Kovač <kovica@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Hi!

Specs are available at https://jakarta.ee/specifications/
"Jakarta EE Platform 8" has 242 pages, but "Jakarta Enterprise Beans 3.2" has only 5 pages. Am I missing something? Looking in a wrong place, ... ?

Best regards,
    Kovi

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