the election result was all positive from the committers, so it
sounds to me like we are proposing to accept the result of that
election?
As we now have a few PRs from Neil that Kilton has linked to,
then I am ok with accepting that result and approving Neil's
nomination. We can also use this as a reference for future ioFog
committer elections.
If I misunderstood anything do let me know!
Thanks,
Ian Craggs
On 08/12/2022 10:12, Jens Reimann
wrote:
I am fine with that, as long as Kilton (as the
project lead) confirms that this is the baseline for the
project.
On Thu, Dec 8, 2022 at 8:52 AM
Hudalla Kai (IOB/PAD-COD2) via iot-pmc <iot-pmc@xxxxxxxxxxx>
wrote:
Hi
Jens, Kilton,
I
tend to agree with Jens in that the linked PRs so far
seem to demonstrate understanding of the tooling and
build process for parts of ioFog.
Personally,
I would probably not vote in a committer to a project
that I am involved in based on the current track
record. But as pointed out by Jens already, it is up
to the ioFog project's committers to establish the
baseline for "substantial, high quality contributions"
(by means of voting in the election).
@Jens,
Ian FMPOV we should waive the election result and (try
to) use this as a reference for future committer
elections in ioFog.
Mit freundlichen Grüßen /
Best regards
Kai Hudalla
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Von: iot-pmc <iot-pmc-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx>
im Auftrag von Jens Reimann <jreimann@xxxxxxxxxx> Gesendet: Donnerstag, 1. Dezember 2022 08:58 An: PMC list for IoT top level project <iot-pmc@xxxxxxxxxxx> Betreff: Re: [iot-pmc] Election for Neil
O'Toole as Committer on Eclipse ioFog
Hi Kilton,
To be honest, these look like rather basic
contributions to me. I am not saying this to
discredit anyone, but I also have a hard time to
align this with the requirements from the project
handbook [1]:
> After an individual has made a small number
of high quality contributions that demonstrate that
they understand how the project works, understand
the Eclipse Foundation Development Process and are
prepared to implement the Eclipse Foundation
Intellectual Property Due Diligence Process, a
committer will invite them to join the team and
initiate the election.
I know, that it also says:
> What constitutes a sufficient demonstration of
merit varies by project team.
If the list above is the project's definition of
"sufficient merit", then that is fine with me. But
this also means that anyone else can become a
project committer based on this baseline. Which I
would say isn't a typical baseline. Otherwise, I
think Neil isn't ready yet. And there should be no
blocker for making additional contributions.
In any case, I would like to hear some additional
thoughts from the other PMC members.
The PMC has the responsibility to verify
and check. Providing all the information
upfront, makes that a lot easier, and thus
most likely faster. If we need to look up
this information ourselves, this will take a
good amount of time from our spare time we
invest in this, and probably lead to worse
results than if you would do it.
> is there a record of
Neil's contributions to the ioFog
project, as PRs and/or issues?
For the PMC, that is currently
not transparent.
Cheers
Jens
On Tue, Nov 29, 2022
at 5:52 AM Kilton Hopkins <kilton@xxxxxxxxxxx>
wrote:
Hi, Ian.
I would like to pass this
election around again for PMC
approval. Neil O'Toole has
been a significant contributor
(via pull requests) to the
Eclipse ioFog code base in the
past months. He has fixed
several issues in
iofog-operator and prepared
the code base for upcoming
enhancements.
yes, Neil should
contribute a few
substantial PRs first
before being nominated as
a committer so there is a
record of work that can be
referred to. This is so
that all contributors are
treated equally.
Thanks,
Ian
On 15/03/2022 23:42,
Kilton Hopkins wrote:
Hi, Ian.
Neil has
contributed in Eclipse
ioFog architecture
discussions thus far
but has not begun
submitting code
contributions. He is
ready to do that now.
He is an employee of
Edgeworx so he has
been exposed to the
process and the
existing committers
for over one year now.
If the guidance is
that he needs to
contribute first via
PRs before he can be
elected as a
committer, then I will
guide him to take that
path.
Jens
Reimann
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