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Re: [iot-pmc] [CQ 8709] libuv Version: 0.11.29

Hello Roger,

it is not unfriendly at all. I am more worried that, based on the fact
that I am no native speaker, write "unfriendly" E-Mail. Which is not my
intention!

I can understand that dilemma. But you pretty much summed it all up. So
you need a normal CQ.

Since you already uploaded the code to IPzilla, I would ask you to get
in contact with Sharon and ask her if you can change the CQ, or if you
need to open another one. I think it is best if she answers that question.

But from a point of a discussion about a 3rd party dependency we come to
the conclusion that it is neither a works with nor a pre-requisite
dependency.

Is that correct?

Jens

On 10/08/2014 04:29 PM, Roger Light wrote:
> Hi Jens,
>
> Reading through this email again I'm worried the lists may make it
> look unfriendly. This isn't the intention at all, I'm quite happy
> discussing it.
>
> The practicality of the situation from my perspective is this:
>
> libuv is the only event library that currently provides useful Windows
> support on the server side. By this I mean allowing >1000 connections
> through the use of AIOCP..
> libuv only provides source code, no binaries.
> libuv is available in package repositories on Linux.
> Nobody provides Windows binaries as far as I am aware.
>
> I think this leaves the following possibilities:
>
> Use libuv, distribute mosquitto+libuv binaries from Eclipse. Requires a full CQ.
> Use libuv, distribute mosquitto+libuv binaries from somewhere else.
> Seems to be going against Eclipse Policy.
> Use libuv, don't distribute any libuv binaries. This means that
> Windows users would have to compile libuv themselves.
> Don't use libuv. This means that mosquitto will remain a toy on Windows.
>
> The only ones that make sense to me are where the end user ends up
> with all of the binaries that they need. That would mean either a full
> CQ, or to go against Eclipse Policy. It would certainly make my life
> easier not having to worry about providing installers, but I feel it's
> something that should be done.
>
> It looks like future versions of libevent will support AIOCP on
> Windows, but they've been working on it for at least 2.5 years already
> without a stable release, so I'm not going to hold my breath. They
> don't distribute binaries either, so the same problem would exist.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Roger
>
>
> On Wed, Oct 8, 2014 at 10:42 AM, Jens Reimann
> <jens.reimann@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> just to get an idea about the current state of this CQ.
>>
>> So do you want to serve "libuv" from Eclipse servers? This would mean a
>> normal CQ with code review, which Sharon sees problematic. But then we
>> could close this discussion.
>>
>> Or you could simply decide not to distribute the bits from Eclipse
>> servers. Neither for Linux, nor for Windows. So we would be back to the
>> point of works with/pre-requisite.
>>
>> Maybe it would be good idea to have a look for an alternative C/C++
>> socket library for Linux, MacOS and Windows that Eclipse IoT projects
>> could use instead. But that would be another discussion then.
>>
>> Jens
>>
>> On 10/07/2014 03:42 PM, emo-ip-team@xxxxxxxxxxx wrote:
>>> http://dev.eclipse.org/ipzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=8709
>>>
>>>
>>> Jens Reimann <jens.reimann@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> changed:
>>>
>>>            What    |Removed                     |Added
>>> ----------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>                  CC|                            |jens.reimann@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --- Comment #5 from Jens Reimann <jens.reimann@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>  2014-10-07 09:42:57 ---
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> at the moment we have an unfinished discussion [1] which I wanted to trigger
>>> again at the same moment.
>>>
>>> To me it looks like the project does require distributing the library from
>>> Eclipse servers [1]. So it would not be a pre-requisite but a standard CQ.
>>>
>>> [1] https://dev.eclipse.org/mhonarc/lists/iot-pmc/msg00154.html
>>>
>>>
>>
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