Kaloyan, Let’s take this off-list. I will see if we can help. Ian From: ide-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:ide-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Kaloyan Raev Sent: Friday, February 3, 2017 4:10 AM To: ide-dev@xxxxxxxxxxx Subject: Re: [ide-dev] An EclipseIDE social media account? Thanks for the hint, Max!
We have a similar situation with the @EclipsePDT Twitter account [1]. My guess is that it was registered by a PDT committer, who is not active anymore. We've done attempts to identify the owner of the account in the pdt-dev mailing list, but failed [2][3].
The account has never sent a single tweet. It definitely uses a trademark of the Eclipse Foundation in its name. So, it should be easy for the Foundation to take the ownership.
@Wayne, @Ian, What would be the right way to trigger the process?
In this particular case, I would suggest that the Eclipse Foundation has the ownership of the @EclipsePDT account and add one or more PDT committers as admins or contributors in TweetDeck.
[1] https://twitter.com/EclipsePDT [2] https://dev.eclipse.org/mhonarc/lists/pdt-dev/msg03168.html [3] https://dev.eclipse.org/mhonarc/lists/pdt-dev/msg03245.html
Thanks, Kaloyan On 02/03/2017 02:01 AM, Max Rydahl Andersen wrote: On 1 Feb 2017, at 16:53, Fabio Zadrozny wrote:
As a note, it seems those names are already taken on Twitter:
@Eclipse https://twitter.com/Eclipse @EclipseIDE: https://twitter.com/EclipseIDE
(so, it may not even be possible to use those names).
fyi, you can get twitter handles from stagnant accounts if you can present a trademark on the name.
Just need someone from Foundation to do the request.
See https://support.twitter.com/articles/15362 and https://support.twitter.com/articles/18367
I've done it myself in past and it is pretty straightforward as long as you have the trademark.
/max
Cheers,
Fabio
On Wed, Feb 1, 2017 at 1:43 PM, Marcel Bruch <marcel.bruch@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
This part of the discussion is missing the key point Mike raised:
@eclipse or @eclipseIDE does not make clear whether it will be about PHP, Java, or C. Personally, I would not follow an account that mostly talks about C or PHP features.
Similar to what Lars said, IMHO it rather needs to be “one twitter account per language”.
As Ian said, many projects have their own twitter account.
As a simple solution (w/o requiring too much additional work), I could imagine to set up a retweet bot that (i) follows multiple Eclipse project accounts and individuals and (ii) simply retweets their tweets - maybe if the tweet contains a certain #hashtag.
How is that? Does not require (too much of) a human resource. Is decentralized / community driven.
This leaves us only with the questions how get the twitter handle right for Java, PHP etc. developers.
Cheers, Marcel
On 01 Feb 2017, at 16:18, Doug Schaefer <dschaefer@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
What does the splash screen say when you start up the IDE? It says “eclipse”. That’s what the millions of Eclipse users see and that’s what they call it. Everyone I run into who’s outside the tight inner circle of Eclipse calls it that. Not even IDE, just “Eclipse”.
If you want to change that perception in the market, then come up with a new name and spend the proper marketing dollars so that everyone gets it. Though at this point it might be easier to rename the Foundation :).
Doug.
From: <ide-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx> on behalf of Mickael Istria < mistria@xxxxxxxxxx> Reply-To: Discussions about the IDE <ide-dev@xxxxxxxxxxx> Date: Wednesday, February 1, 2017 at 9:46 AM To: "ide-dev@xxxxxxxxxxx" <ide-dev@xxxxxxxxxxx>, "simon_kaegi@xxxxxxxxxx" <simon_kaegi@xxxxxxxxxx>, "snorthov@xxxxxxxxxx" <snorthov@xxxxxxxxxx>, " tjewell@xxxxxxxxxxx" <tjewell@xxxxxxxxxxx>, "nedelcho.delchev@xxxxxxx" < nedelcho.delchev@xxxxxxx> Subject: Re: [ide-dev] An EclipseIDE social media account?
On 02/01/2017 03:27 PM, Mike Milinkovich wrote:
But then surely you must see that calling the Twitter handle "@EclipseIDE" is at least confusing --- and probably impolite --- for the other IDE platforms also hosted by the Eclipse Foundation.
We could ask them. @Simon @Steve @Tyler @Nedelcho: would an @EclipseIDE Twitter account focused on the "historical" Eclipse IDE seem impolite to you and your project? I personally believe that since other IDEs are properly branded and were branded with another name since their inception, the confusion is not that strong. Users make fully difference between Che, Dirigible, Orion and what they currently still call `Eclipse`.
And even so, an underlying question is how do we remove this confusion? Some abilities to properly market the Eclipse IDE are currently stuck by the fact that there are other IDEs going on and that `Eclipse IDE` has become a too generic name after 10 years. So we would need to name the `Eclipse IDE` something else. What would be the procedure to get started? Does it require board approval? Are there alternative way to communicate about a product that we cannot even name on Twitter without risk of being confusing and impolite?
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