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Re: [ide-dev] Eclipse's Usability Issues Summarized
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I think you also want to take a look at
https://wiki.eclipse.org/E4/UI/Smart_Import
Dani
From:
Doug Schaefer <dschaefer@xxxxxxx>
To:
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IDE <ide-dev@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Date:
10.06.2015 17:54
Subject:
Re: [ide-dev]
Eclipse's Usability Issues Summarized
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I’ll do a pretty long write up when I
get a chance. Been busy on non-Eclipse business the last few weeks but
will get back to things in July.
Basically, the current new Project Wizard
is really old and not very welcoming and doesn’t really help guide the
new user. Xcode and Visual Studio do a much better job of that and we need
to catch up.
The other aspect of it is to offer the
ability to create new projects for plug-ins you don’t have installed yet.
Visual Studio calls these on-line templates. I imagine we’d incorporate
something from the Eclipse Marketplace to populate the information in the
wizard. It would be nice to create a new Android project which would then
go off and install the Andmore plug-ins for me and then finish creating
the project. That, of course, would require plug-ins to install without
forcing a restart of the IDE. Which is probably another area we need to
tackle.
More later, but interested in people thoughts
on the new project experience and ways to improve it for new users (and
existing ones for that matter).
Doug.
From: Lars Vogel <lars.vogel@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Reply-To: Discussions about the IDE <ide-dev@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: Wednesday, June 10, 2015 at 11:23 AM
To: Discussions about the IDE <ide-dev@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: [ide-dev] Eclipse's Usability Issues Summarized
What is behind the new Project Wizards?
Best regards, Lars
Am 10.06.2015 4:29 nachm. schrieb "Doug
Schaefer" <dschaefer@xxxxxxx>:
LOL, yes. It’s probably a good thing we’re
running without a product manager ;).
BTW, we’ve made some great strides on
the UX front with Mars. And we have some good things planned for Neon,
like project import auto discovery. I have a couple more I’ll be proposing
in the next few weeks with the New Project wizard and adding IU requirements
to projects so that we can install the plug-ins that projects need when
they are created or brought into a workspace. I think Michael Scharf has
mentioned that a few times.
I’ve received great feedback on the LaunchBar
and our Remote TM work and the Console Command Shell. We need to consider
how we’d introduce them into the IDE packages. My biggest fear is introducing
something major to the community without proper education on how to use
it. And that points back to the Eclipse IDE web site, or probably an improved
help system/welcome page.
Lots to do, but we have momentum and I
think we can all be proud of that.
Doug
From: Mike Milinkovich <mike.milinkovich@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Organization: Eclipse Foundation
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<mike.milinkovich@xxxxxxxxxxx>,
Discussions about the IDE <ide-dev@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: Wednesday, June 10, 2015 at 9:18 AM
To: Discussions about the IDE <ide-dev@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [ide-dev] Eclipse's Usability Issues Summarized
Sorry folks, but I just couldn't resist :)
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