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Re: [gef-dev] Fabian Steeg to help lead Zest


On Thu, Feb 10, 2011 at 6:53 PM, Wayne Beaton <wayne@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
FWIW, p2 is a subproject of Equinox.

Thanks for replying Wayne.  I think there is something I don't understand about Eclipse project structures (I thought we only had non-formalized components as part of projects), but there might be some value in a sub-project.  Let me read up on those.

cheers,
ian
 

Clearly the answer to my question is no. I'm okay with that.

Wayne

On 02/10/2011 05:51 PM, Ian Bull wrote:
> We have the same schedule as GEF.  The version number / API thing is no
> different than any other project IMHO. For example, p2 has different
> version numbers than equinox, but they are in the same project.  In
> fact, p2 has different versions across its bundles.
>
> I think grouping projects based on their 'goals' and 'intents' is the
> best idea.  And Zest/Draw2D/Gef all have similar goals -- runtimes for
> graphical manipulation of information.
>
> Just my $0.02.
>
> cheers,
> ian
>
> On Thu, Feb 10, 2011 at 1:41 PM, Wayne Beaton <wayne@xxxxxxxxxxx
> <mailto:wayne@xxxxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
>
>     If Zest has different release numbers and a different schedule from GEF,
>     does it make more sense for it to be a separate project? Just askin'
>
>     Wayne
>
>     On 02/10/2011 04:33 PM, Alexander Nyßen wrote:
>     > Hi all,
>     >
>     > what about the option to deliver Zest 1.x together with GEF 3.7 for
>     > Indigo and to come up with a Zest 2.0 & Draw2d/GEF 4.0 combination in
>     > 2012? I think there are a couple of things in Draw2d/GEF that could be
>     > cleaned up as well, and doing so would give us the chance to better
>     > align the three components with each other (I haven't taken a look
>     into
>     > Zest 2.0 yet, but Zest 1.x e.g. had to "fork" XYScaledGraphics, which
>     > could be merged back into ScaledGraphics; I suppose there are similar
>     > places in Zest 2.0). What do you think?
>     >
>     > Cheers
>     > Alexander
>     >
>     > Am 10.02.2011 um 19:52 schrieb Ian Bull:
>     >
>     >> I will look at those...
>     >>
>     >> Just to be clear, we don't need to break existing users... we can
>     ship
>     >> Zest 2.0 and Zest 1.x... we can also not put Zest 2.0 in the indigo
>     >> repo.
>     >>
>     >> But I will review the plan.
>     >>
>     >> cheers,
>     >> ian
>     >>
>     >> On Thu, Feb 10, 2011 at 10:35 AM, Anthony Hunter
>     <anthonyh@xxxxxxxxxx <mailto:anthonyh@xxxxxxxxxx>
>     >> <mailto:anthonyh@xxxxxxxxxx <mailto:anthonyh@xxxxxxxxxx>>> wrote:
>     >>
>     >>     That is good Ian, there is no official process as there is no
>     such
>     >>     hierarchy. We are all GEF project committers and GEF is comprised
>     >>     of the Draw2d, GEF and Zest components. If you wish to share the
>     >>     leadership of the Zest component, that is fine (there are
>     only two
>     >>     Zest committers :-)).
>     >>
>     >>     A reminder of our project plan at
>     >>
>     http://www.eclipse.org/projects/project-plan.php?projectid=tools.gef
>     >>
>     <http://www.eclipse.org/projects/project-plan.php?projectid=tools.gef>
>     >>     . Since we are bent on a major version change to Zest
>     breaking all
>     >>     existing Zest users, concrete plans would be useful.
>     >>
>     >>     Cheers...
>     >>     Anthony
>     >>
>     >>
>     >>
>     >>
>     >>     From:         Ian Bull <irbull@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>     <mailto:irbull@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>     >>     <mailto:irbull@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>     <mailto:irbull@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>>>
>     >>     To:         GEF development <gef-dev@xxxxxxxxxxx
>     <mailto:gef-dev@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>     >>     <mailto:gef-dev@xxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:gef-dev@xxxxxxxxxxx>>>,
>     Fabian Steeg <fsteeg@xxxxxxxxx <mailto:fsteeg@xxxxxxxxx>
>     >>     <mailto:fsteeg@xxxxxxxxx <mailto:fsteeg@xxxxxxxxx>>>
>     >>     Date:         02/10/2011 12:09 PM
>     >>     Subject:         [gef-dev] Fabian Steeg to help lead Zest
>     >>     Sent by:         gef-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx
>     <mailto:gef-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>     >>     <mailto:gef-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx
>     <mailto:gef-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx>>
>     >>
>     >>
>     >>
>     >>     I would like to nominate Fabian Steeg as co-lead for the Zest
>     >>     component in the GEF project.  While this is more symbolic than
>     >>     anything else (I'm not sure there is a formal 'lead' for
>     component
>     >>     in the Eclipse Development Process).  Fabian is doing a majority
>     >>     of the work on Zest these days and he is showing great judgment.
>     >>      Fabian has an excellent understanding of Zest and has been
>     >>     working on the transition to Zest 2.0.  Having Fabian help lead
>     >>     Zest will make it a much better component!
>     >>
>     >>     I don't think there is an official process for this, but I assume
>     >>     that Anthony (GEF lead) and I both need to give a +1.  (This
>     >>     e-mail is of course my +1).
>     >>
>     >>     cheers,
>     >>     ian
>     >>
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