Re: [equinox-dev] Parallel bundle activation?

[Lars Vogel <lars.vogel@xxxxxxxxxxx>]

Opened https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=540507 to
investigate a parallel activation of bundles. We are doing a similar
thing for the JDT compiler in
https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=531554 and if this is
possible bundle activation should also be possible.

Thanks again for the help, Lars
On Fri, Oct 26, 2018 at 3:13 PM Lars Vogel <lars.vogel@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
> Thanks everyone for the prompt reply.
>
> @Tom, I agree unfortunately the Eclipse IDE has multiple long running
> activators, e.g., JDT UI takes 1/2 a second and these startups add up.
> The SDK starts for example for me in approx. 8 seconds while an EPP
> may need > 20 seconds. And fixing all of the IDE contributions is not
> realistic.
>
>
>
> On Fri, Oct 26, 2018 at 3:09 PM Thomas Watson <tjwatson@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> >
> > Neil and Gunner are correct.  I also question the motivation to running activators in parallel.  In implies some kind of design flaw because you must have some long running BundleActivators if you want to run them in parallel.  You are better off investigating why you must have long running BundleActivators.
> >
> > Tom
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ----- Original message -----
> > From: Neil Bartlett <njbartlett@xxxxxxxxx>
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> > Subject: Re: [equinox-dev] Parallel bundle activation?
> > Date: Fri, Oct 26, 2018 7:20 AM
> >
> > Hi Lars,
> >
> > Activation of a bundle happens when the launcher calls Bundle.start(). You can certainly write a launcher that calls start() on many bundles concurrently from multiple threads.
> >
> > Most existing launchers, including AFAICT the default Eclipse/Equinox launcher, call start() in series.
> >
> > Neil
> >
> > On Fri, Oct 26, 2018 at 1:12 PM Gunnar Wagenknecht <gunnar@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> >
> > Hi Lars,
> >
> > Here is a good thread about the topic:
> > https://www.eclipse.org/forums/index.php/t/206827/
> >
> > TLDR: single thread only
> >
> > -Gunnar
> >
> > --
> > Gunnar Wagenknecht
> > gunnar@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, http://guw.io/
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On Oct 26, 2018, at 14:09, Lars Vogel <lars.vogel@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> > can Equinox perform bundle activation during startup in parallel?
> >
> > For example, lets assume I have two bundles A and B which have no
> > dependency to each other. Both should be activated during startup. Can
> > this be done in parallel? Or is the current code single-threaded?
> >
> > Best regards, Lars
> >
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