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Re: [epp-dev] Files for release mirrors to have time
You are right. I used to be very careful with the modification times of files and directories, especially the download directories are important. I got used to using my TIMESTAMP files that can be found here and there on the download server, usually in commands like

  touch -r . TIMESTAMP
  touch -r TIMESTAMP .

to "store" the modification times of the current working directory, and to use it afterwards to copy the very same modification time back to it.

Regards,
Markus

On Mon, 16 Mar 2020 at 17:23, Ed Merks <ed.merks@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

For last year's March release, the installer was downloaded almost 3 million times, and the packages themselves in total more than 1 million times. 

  https://www.eclipse.org/downloads/packages/release/2019-03/r

Of course it's not clear over which time period that happened, but there's always quite a bit of activity the day of and the days after...  The mirror failures right after the most 2019-12 release certainly brought that download server to its knees enough to take note that there was an ongoing problem.  And that's in December, close to Christmas time, when you wouldn't expect quite so much either.

That's all to say that I very much appreciate Jonah being conservative on this front.

Note too that I see that the mirrors are back now!

  https://www.eclipse.org/downloads/download.php?format=xml&file=/releases/2020-03/202003181000&countryCode=us&timeZone=1&format=xml
  https://www.eclipse.org/downloads/download.php?format=xml&file=/technology/epp/packages/2020-03/RC2a&countryCode=us&timeZone=1&format=xml

There are not so many mirrors for this yet:

  https://www.eclipse.org/downloads/download.php?file=/oomph/epp/2020-03/R/eclipse-inst-win64.exe

But that's after only a few hours.

Now that I'm thinking about it though, we should be careful what happens to the timestamp of the EPP folder and the train folder when the content/artifacts change just minutes before the release.  If the folder's timestamp changes, I believe all the mirrors will be disabled again for a while...

Regards,
Ed

On 16.03.2020 16:42, Markus Knauer wrote:
Full agreement... 24h is typically enough.
Sometimes, if it was really urgent in the past, I double-checked with Denis and the webmasters in order to make them aware that there may be a download peak. On the other hand, the peaks are not that high (especially for a March release) than they used to be.

And yes, I would definitely vote for the RC2a version (without aeri).

Regards,
Markus

On Mon, 16 Mar 2020 at 16:07, Jonah Graham <jonah@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:


On Mon., Mar. 16, 2020, 10:54 Ed Merks, <ed.merks@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

Jonah,

I believe 24 hours is normally more than enough, though the problem in https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=561125 is still a problem so sooner is probably better than later.   I feel that it's safe to assume that RC2a versus RC2 will be good because the difference is really very trivial and I've confirmed that the Java, JEE and RCP packages installed from this basis via the installer start up fine...


Thanks Ed for confirming. I will do the downloads this evening (Ottawa time) 

Note that if you're going to transform the EPP repo into a simple repository, you should get the binary/features/plugins  folders copied up into the 2020-03 folder in preparation as well.

I will place all the binary/features/plugins files in place too, leaving just the artifacts and content files to be updated Wed morning. 

I will ensure that the composites are retuning 404 in time for the release too.

Thanks, 
Jonah 

Thanks for all the heavy lifting!!

Regards,
Ed


On 16.03.2020 15:42, Jonah Graham wrote:
Hi folks, 

When do the files need to be in place for release day? I assume today is better than tomorrow. 

In that case we need to have RC2a vs RC2 decision ASAP. If I don't hear anything further I will be making the RC2a files the R files. 

Thanks, 
Jonah 


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