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Re: [epp-dev] Incubation packages

I see that JEE added "incubating", but to a product element's name:

  https://git.eclipse.org/c/epp/org.eclipse.epp.packages.git/commit/packages/org.eclipse.epp.package.jee.feature/epp.website.xml?id=53323e2c0e09149389c25b2bef41085cd9e9f621
  https://git.eclipse.org/c/epp/org.eclipse.epp.packages.git/tree/packages/org.eclipse.epp.package.jee.feature/epp.website.xml#n50

It did not actually change the packageName attribute so the users won't notice it's incubating on the web page:

https://git.eclipse.org/c/epp/org.eclipse.epp.packages.git/tree/packages/org.eclipse.epp.package.jee.feature/epp.website.xml#n11

Nor will the generated catalog mark it as incubating.  Please I beg you folks to do something that's consistent across the board.   I've already explained all the hassle with dealing generating the catalog but that seems pointless if people can't be bothered to read it.

Please change the packageName attribute and do so in a consistent way across all the packages.


On 06.03.2020 16:31, Jonah Graham wrote:
Thank you Markus for the clarification.

The conclusion is that many more packages should be called incubation packages. In total that should be (in brackets is an incubating component I identified):

- CPP (swtchart)
- Rust (lsp4e/j)
- JEE (?)
- Committers (?)
- _javascript_  (lsp4e/j)
- DSL (lsp4j)

i.e. 6 of the 13 packages.

Also, the description of RCP still says "The Eclipse Passage (Incubation)" https://git.eclipse.org/c/epp/org.eclipse.epp.packages.git/tree/packages/org.eclipse.epp.package.rcp.feature/epp.website.xml so that needs a fix too.

Can package owners fix their own packages if needed please before Thursday?


Thanks
Jonah

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Jonah Graham
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On Fri, 6 Mar 2020 at 09:00, Markus Knauer <mknauer@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
The rule is... as soon as a package contains content from a project in incubation phase, it needs to be marked as such, i.e. it needs the string "incubation" in its file name and labeled on the download page with "includes incubating components". For milestone releases it may be acceptable if a label is wrong, for a release it must be accurate.

Most people prefer not to have such a label for a package, some package maintainers don't include components from incubating projects at all.

I cannot speak of other packages, but

- The Rust package started as package with incubating components. Maybe the status has changed in the meantime. If this is the case, it should be updated.
- The RCP/RAP package used to contain some incubating components for a short period of time, but was never released with it. I've updated its name now in the following commit https://git.eclipse.org/c/epp/org.eclipse.epp.packages.git/commit/?id=88af72e37d3c97927858db0b6feba3a2d71da1a2

Regards,
Markus

On Fri, 6 Mar 2020 at 14:16, Jonah Graham <jonah@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
I think the CPP one too because it has swtchart in it now.
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Jonah Graham
Kichwa Coders
www.kichwacoders.com


On Fri, 6 Mar 2020 at 08:11, Mickael Istria <mistria@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
The "Eclipse IDE for _javascript_ and Web developers" started integrating Wild Web Developer recently, so it should have be changed to add "-incubation" in its name if it's the rule.
Same applies to "Eclipse IDE for Enterprise Java developers" I believe.
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