Re: [epp-dev] Eclipse IDE on Windows Store?

[Doug Schaefer <cdtdoug@xxxxxxxxx>]

Yeah, sorry, I never thought much about either store. I get very little from the Apple Store on my Mac. Xcode is really the only thing and that's because it's the only way to get it.

Sublime, as far as I'm aware the most popular tool used by developers on Mac, isn't even in the Store.

IMHO, having a great web site with a Download button that downloads and launches a good installer is all we really need. I'm not sure the Stores would buy us much. As a colleague put it well, "I used Google to find the page and hit the Download button." And then he gave me a funny _expression_ like putting stuff like that in a Store was a crazy idea. YMMV.

On Tue, Feb 9, 2016 at 3:59 PM, Max Rydahl Andersen <manderse@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

afaik I know (https://social.msdn.microsoft.com/Forums/windowsapps/en-US/220f7769-ac99-462a-832e-95a5a5229d13/need-help-publishing-java-application-in-windows-app-store?forum=wpdevelop) Microsoft App store has similar limitations as Apple store.

The app has to be fully contained so you need to ship the actual java runtime inside the distro and you'll need to be able to run as an Windows Runtime app which afaik severely limits what an application can do - especially in the area an IDE needs it.

/max

On 02/09/2016 04:40 PM, Mike Milinkovich wrote:

I have, although it was over a year ago. It's ..... complicated. The issues are mostly around the packaging requirements and the legal terms and conditions. They are not insurmountable, but it would be a non-trivial amount of technical, legal, and administrative effort to get our packages into these channels.

Ok.

In my humble opinion, if someone was volunteering to do more work in this area getting up-to-date packages into the Debian and Ubuntu apt repositories is where I would start. (I think you Red Hat folk are already keeping it current on Fedora/yum, right?)

Yes, the Fedora/Eclipse team provides a pretty up-to-date and high quality rpm/yum package for Eclipse IDE.
On a related note, some users regularly get older versions of Eclipse IDE because of the very old .deb packages available for Debian and Ubuntu. They sometimes even don't notice they're using such an old version and don't consider finding a new one. That's the purpose of https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=484765 .

Why do you ask?

I'm wondering whether Windows Store would make "onboarding" of new users to Eclipse IDE easier, to simply save them time. Being the only real IDE in such a store may also be a big competitive advantage.
The vast majority of Eclipse users are on Windows, so if we're to consider better delivery, it's IMO by far the main one to consider (more than the Debian/Ubuntu one).
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