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Re: [ee4j-pmc] Hierarchical project structure
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Thanks Ivar. Done.
https://github.com/eclipse-ee4j/ee4j/issues/7
Regards,
Ian
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From:
Ivar Grimstad <ivar.grimstad@xxxxxxxxx>
To:
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Date:
15/12/2017 10:30
Subject:
Re: [ee4j-pmc]
Hierarchical project structure
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Yes, use the Issue tracker for the EE4J GitHub repo: https://github.com/eclipse-ee4j/ee4j/issues
I think the issue you refer to has been logged by Kevin
here:
https://github.com/eclipse-ee4j/ee4j/issues/6
Ivar
On Fri, Dec 15, 2017 at 10:27 AM Ian Robinson <ian_robinson@xxxxxxxxxx>
wrote:
Agreed - and it will either pick up
support or not over time as we get more experience in EE4J. I already brought
up another topic with Kevin (unrelated - readoption of JAX-WS and JAXB
into EE as they exit SE) as something we should log as an issue for the
PMC to consider so we do need an issue process. Is there a plan for a PMC
github repo against which issues like this can be raised/tracked? I'll
be happy to raise it there to come back to in the future if we see a need.
Regards,
Ian
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From: Wayne
Beaton <wayne.beaton@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: EE4J
PMC Discussions <ee4j-pmc@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: 14/12/2017
21:27
Subject: [ee4j-pmc]
Hierarchical project structure
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This is probably the sort of thing that we should move to either a Bugzilla
record or a GitHub Issue so that others can engage and we can track the
decision. Feel free to do so if you feel that it's worth consideration.
Wayne
On Thu, Dec 14, 2017 at 11:55 AM, Ian Robinson <ian_robinson@xxxxxxxxxx>
wrote:
Certainly no messing about here before we are bootstraped, and only if
it seems valuable. By "working around" I mean things we have
discussed previously about easy of navigation between peer projects and
now the web sites for those projects. Maybe once we have progressed the
branding name and created web pages associated with this then an overarching
organizational view can be represented here.
Regards,
Ian
Ian Robinson, IBM Distinguished
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From: Wayne
Beaton <wayne.beaton@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: Ian
Robinson <ian_robinson@xxxxxxxxxx>
Cc: EE4J
PMC Discussions <ee4j-pmc@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: 14/12/2017
05:13
Subject: Re:
[ee4j-pmc] Short names and URLs
A hierarchical structure is more work for the project team. By introducing
an extra level of hierarchy, you are introducing extra projects which require
additional management. Just setting them up requires that you come up with
names. What resources are allocated to the organizational nodes? Do those
extra nodes in the hierarchy have their own websites? Who has what roles
on those organizational nodes?
Frankly, it's not all that much more work for me.
What, specifically, are we doing to work around a "flat" structure?
If there is some demonstrable value in having a hierarchy within EE4J,
we can introduce it. But let's do that after we get what we have bootstrapped.
Wayne
On Wed, Dec 13, 2017 at 11:46 PM, Ian Robinson <ian_robinson@xxxxxxxxxx>
wrote:
Wayne, a hierarchical structure might be more work for Eclipse but every
time we discuss this we seem to end up trying to work around the flat structure.
I don't want to slow us down by reopening this but I would not be surprised
if a year along we found ourselves needing to do that. There's a level
of collective scale here that a project hierarchy may have a benefit that
eclipse has not observed before
Regards,
Ian
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Bill Shannon --- Re: [ee4j-pmc] Short names and URLs ---
If the web sites for all the EE4J projects were under http://www.eclipse.org/ee4j/,
that would at least make the naming consistent. Ditto https://projects.eclipse.org/projects/ee4j/.
Is there some reason not to do that?
Wayne Beaton wrote on 12/13/17 02:33 PM:
The project space is absolutely a hierarchy. e.g. look at the "Related
Links" on the right of https://projects.eclipse.org/projects/ecd
I tend to argue against making a hierarchy any deeper than <root>/<tlp>/<project>
because making it deeper adds work that doesn't add value.
We can make the w-Your data has been truncated. Unless stated otherwise
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