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Re: [ecf-dev] adding to RemoteServiceAdmin wiki docs 
Hi Pablo,

On 4/1/2011 3:07 AM, Pablo García Sánchez wrote:

Great, Scott! (uhm, that's sound like the "Great Scott" american
famous exclamation... ;)

I was waiting for this improvement in the wiki to continue
investigating ECF usages. Maybe I would suggest code examples to bind
to specific services or similar.
Have you examined the 'hello' examples? These support the usage of multiple/alternative discovery and distribution providers (e.g. zeroconf, zookeeper, slp, dnssd for discovery...r-osgi, ecf generic, jms, xmpp, rest, etc for distribution). 

I'm not sure what you mean by 'bind specific services or similar'.



I'm still a bit confused about the
difference of a server/host URL and the containerFactoryArgs property,
ECF provider instances are created via a container factory...and each provider can optionally define an arbitrary array of arguments that is uses to initialize/configure the container instance upon creation. The containerFactoryArgs property can be used to pass arbitrary arguments to the container factory...via the service properties passed to the service registration call.
The ECF generic provider takes a single argument that allows one to specify the server/host URI for that provider...with default of: 

ecftcp://localhost:3282/server
Note that this is for the generic provider only...and other providers take other arguments (or take no arguments at all). Each provider has it's own configuration requirements (and it's own expected/required set of containerFactoryArgs).
Note that if greater control over the container creation and selection process is desired, that one can simply register one's own implementation of the IHostContainerSelector [1] as a service, and then when the ECF RSA impl exportService call is made then the customized host container selector will be called to select (and optionally create/configure) the container(s) to actually export the service. The default implementation of IHostContainerSelector (class HostContainerSelector[2]) is where the host/server container is actually created...and where the containerFactoryArgs are actually used/passed into the container creation.
My intention is to add to the RSA documentation to describe (with perhaps an example if I can manage the time) of creating/using a custom IHostContainerSelector (and IConsumerContainerSelector)...to show how this can easily be done...and allow the container creation, configuration to be customized as desired. 



and how a client makes the discovery of services in an specific
computer. For example, code about list all the remote services in a
different machines than localhost could be interesting (without using
zeroconf, I mean).
This is as easy as adding an EndpointListener...with a scope that restricts the notification to the set of hosts that match...e.g. to frameworks that do *not* have the same framework uuid as localhost...e.g. 

(!(org.osgi.framework.uuid=<your localhost framework uuid>)
You would register your EndpointListener with the endpoint listener scope (standard) property set...e.g. 

Properties props = new Properties();
props.put(EndpointListener.ENDPOINT_LISTENER_SCOPE,"(!(org.osgi.framework.uuid=<your localhost framework uuid>)"); bundleContext.registerService(EndpointListener.class.getName(),new MyEndpointListener(),props);
I would like to have other/more examples of doing this (creating EndpointListeners with various kinds of scopes), and I've been contemplating an Eclipse view that shows all discovered EndpointDescriptions (with ability to easily set scope). This would be easy to do...but alas no time. 


I appreciate all the work of the ECF developers are doing, given that
they do in their spare time :)
Yes...see 'alas no time' comment above :). If you can find non-spare time support, please consider making it known/available. 

Scott
[1] http://git.eclipse.org/c/ecf/org.eclipse.ecf.git/tree/osgi/bundles/org.eclipse.ecf.osgi.services.remoteserviceadmin/src/org/eclipse/ecf/osgi/services/remoteserviceadmin/IHostContainerSelector.java
[2] http://git.eclipse.org/c/ecf/org.eclipse.ecf.git/tree/osgi/bundles/org.eclipse.ecf.osgi.services.remoteserviceadmin/src/org/eclipse/ecf/osgi/services/remoteserviceadmin/HostContainerSelector.java 



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   1. Getting started with ECF (ronen hamias)
   2. Re: Getting started with ECF (Pierre Henry Perret)
   3. Re: Getting started with ECF (Scott Lewis)
   4. adding to RemoteServiceAdmin wiki docs (Scott Lewis)
   5. Re: Getting started with ECF (ronen hamias)
   6. Re: Getting started with ECF (Markus Alexander Kuppe)


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Date: Thu, 31 Mar 2011 20:20:48 +0200
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Hi all,

i am having trouble to get started with ecf in terms of setting my
development envitoment correctly
iso far i had alot of problems and exceptions thrown when starting the
platform
my guess i am missing dependencies or i didnt downlod the correct versions
for:

eclipse
OSGi
ECF

my goal is to be able to learn ECF capabilities and in the future even
contribute to the project

what is the correct profile/pre requisits for testing ECF?
what is the correct profile/pre requisits for developing ECF?

is there any step by step guide somewhere?

i am only getting started so please bare with me...

ronen
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Date: Thu, 31 Mar 2011 20:42:24 +0200
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Hi Ronen,

We have documentation for starter contributor/user on installing the ECF sdk
at [0].
Also, I think you 'll need this at [1] also, which docs how to start rs use
with ECF implementation.

With that doc and... some resilience you'll get it!


[0]
http://wiki.eclipse.org/Using_ECF_Remote_Services_Bundles_separate_from_the_ECF_SDK
[1] http://wiki.eclipse.org/EIG:Getting_Started_with_OSGi_Remote_Services

<http://wiki.eclipse.org/EIG:Getting_Started_with_OSGi_Remote_Services>
--
Pierre




2011/3/31 ronen hamias<ronen.hamias@xxxxxxxxx>


Hi all,

i am having trouble to get started with ecf in terms of setting my
development envitoment correctly
iso far i had alot of problems and exceptions thrown when starting the
platform
my guess i am missing dependencies or i didnt downlod the correct versions
for:

eclipse
OSGi
ECF

my goal is to be able to learn ECF capabilities and in the future even
contribute to the project

what is the correct profile/pre requisits for testing ECF?
what is the correct profile/pre requisits for developing ECF?

is there any step by step guide somewhere?

i am only getting started so please bare with me...

ronen


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Date: Thu, 31 Mar 2011 11:45:32 -0700
From: Scott Lewis<slewis@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
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Ronen,

On 3/31/2011 11:20 AM, ronen hamias wrote:

Hi all,
i am having trouble to get started with ecf in terms of setting my
development envitoment correctly
iso far i had alot of problems and exceptions thrown when starting the
platform
my guess i am missing dependencies or i didnt downlod the correct
versions for:
eclipse
OSGi
ECF
my goal is to be able to learn ECF capabilities and in the future even
contribute to the project
what is the correct profile/pre requisits for testing ECF?

The ECF download page [1] indicates that ECF 3.5 requires Eclipse Helios
SDK (3.6.X) or Eclipse Indigo SDK (3.7.X).    You can get Eclipse Helios
or Eclipse Indigo here [2].


what is the correct profile/pre requisits for developing ECF?

Same as above...i.e. Eclipse Helios or Eclipse Indigo....the SDK of
whatever version is best...because it includes most of the relevant
tooling, plus the Eclipse/Equinox source code (which can be useful).

In addition, since ECF now uses git for our repository [5], it's
necessary to use *some* git client...to retrieve and possibly change/add
to the latest ECF source.  The eGit client is popular (because it runs
in Eclipse) [6], but since it is not included in the Eclipse SDK you
need to install it into Eclipse SDK yourself.  See [6] for the
instructions for installing/using eGit.

You can also use other git clients if you wish (e.g. git command line
clients, etc)...but of course if you do so you have to keep your local
Eclipse workspace in sync with the local repo manually.



is there any step by step guide somewhere?

No...not one that includes installing Eclipse, eGit, etc.   If you want
to produce one...once you've identified the steps that will help
you...that would be a great contribution to ECF (i.e. by creating/adding
a page to the ECF wiki [3]).

However....we do now have several pages describing the
download/install/examples app usage for ECF's impl of OSGi remote
services (which is one part of ECF...not all of it, but one significant
part).  Those docs are here [4] (as indicated by Pierre's recent email
also).

As of ECF 3.5, much of ECF can/could run on Felix (another OSGi
framework impl), rather than only Equinox (which is an the OSGi
framework impl that comes *with* Eclipse).  Actually, I believe ECF
remote services development can/could probably be done by other
IDEs/tooling (e.g. Idea...and/or Netbeans), but I haven't even tried
this yet, so I can't explain the process for doing so.

Scott

[1] http://www.eclipse.org/ecf/downloads.php
[2] http://download.eclipse.org/eclipse/downloads/
[3] http://wiki.eclipse.org/ECF
[4] http://wiki.eclipse.org/ECF#OSGi_Remote_Services
[5] http://git.eclipse.org/c/ecf/org.eclipse.ecf.git
[6] http://www.eclipse.org/egit/



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Date: Thu, 31 Mar 2011 16:35:51 -0700
From: Scott Lewis<slewis@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: "Eclipse Communication Framework (ECF) developer mailing list."
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Subject: [ecf-dev] adding to RemoteServiceAdmin wiki docs
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Hi Folks,

I've been adding to the wiki-based docs for the ECF impl of the OSGi
Remote Service Admin (RSA) here [1].  The idea is to allow people to use
the major features of the ECF RSA impl without having to consult with
the OSGI specification (chap 122 of enterprise spec)...at least for
everything :).

It's not completed yet, but I would appreciate some review, as well as
comments or suggestions...or further contributions, examples, etc.

Thanks,

Scott

[1] http://wiki.eclipse.org/Remote_Services_Admin
[2] https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=329124





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Date: Fri, 1 Apr 2011 10:23:05 +0300
From: ronen hamias<ronen.hamias@xxxxxxxxx>
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Hi Scott

thanks for the help getting started with ECF
i have followed the instruction and had encountered a problem

it seem that i am missing
org.eclipse.equinox.concurrent.future;*version*="1.0.0"

how can i resolve this issue?

BR

ronen



On Thu, Mar 31, 2011 at 9:45 PM, Scott Lewis<slewis@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>  wrote:


Ronen,


On 3/31/2011 11:20 AM, ronen hamias wrote:


Hi all,
i am having trouble to get started with ecf in terms of setting my
development envitoment correctly
iso far i had alot of problems and exceptions thrown when starting the
platform
my guess i am missing dependencies or i didnt downlod the correct versions
for:
eclipse
OSGi
ECF
my goal is to be able to learn ECF capabilities and in the future even
contribute to the project
what is the correct profile/pre requisits for testing ECF?


The ECF download page [1] indicates that ECF 3.5 requires Eclipse Helios
SDK (3.6.X) or Eclipse Indigo SDK (3.7.X).    You can get Eclipse Helios or
Eclipse Indigo here [2].


what is the correct profile/pre requisits for developing ECF?
Same as above...i.e. Eclipse Helios or Eclipse Indigo....the SDK of
whatever version is best...because it includes most of the relevant tooling,
plus the Eclipse/Equinox source code (which can be useful).

In addition, since ECF now uses git for our repository [5], it's necessary
to use *some* git client...to retrieve and possibly change/add to the latest
ECF source.  The eGit client is popular (because it runs in Eclipse) [6],
but since it is not included in the Eclipse SDK you need to install it into
Eclipse SDK yourself.  See [6] for the instructions for installing/using
eGit.

You can also use other git clients if you wish (e.g. git command line
clients, etc)...but of course if you do so you have to keep your local
Eclipse workspace in sync with the local repo manually.



is there any step by step guide somewhere?
No...not one that includes installing Eclipse, eGit, etc.   If you want to
produce one...once you've identified the steps that will help you...that
would be a great contribution to ECF (i.e. by creating/adding a page to the
ECF wiki [3]).

However....we do now have several pages describing the
download/install/examples app usage for ECF's impl of OSGi remote services
(which is one part of ECF...not all of it, but one significant part).  Those
docs are here [4] (as indicated by Pierre's recent email also).

As of ECF 3.5, much of ECF can/could run on Felix (another OSGi framework
impl), rather than only Equinox (which is an the OSGi framework impl that
comes *with* Eclipse).  Actually, I believe ECF remote services development
can/could probably be done by other IDEs/tooling (e.g. Idea...and/or
Netbeans), but I haven't even tried this yet, so I can't explain the process
for doing so.

Scott

[1] http://www.eclipse.org/ecf/downloads.php
[2] http://download.eclipse.org/eclipse/downloads/
[3] http://wiki.eclipse.org/ECF
[4] http://wiki.eclipse.org/ECF#OSGi_Remote_Services
[5] http://git.eclipse.org/c/ecf/org.eclipse.ecf.git
[6] http://www.eclipse.org/egit/


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Date: Fri, 01 Apr 2011 10:07:25 +0200
From: Markus Alexander Kuppe<ecf-dev_eclipse.org@xxxxxxxxxxx>
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On 04/01/2011 09:23 AM, ronen hamias wrote:

Hi Scott

thanks for the help getting started with ECF
i have followed the instruction and had encountered a problem

it seem that i am missing
org.eclipse.equinox.concurrent.future;/version/="1.0.0"

how can i resolve this issue?

Add the org.eclipse.equinox.concurrent bundle to your runtime.

Markus


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