[ecf-dev] Re: [technology-pmc] Newsreader

[Eric Rizzo <eclipse-mail@xxxxxxxxxxxx>]

I must say that I'm disappointed by the lack of any response to this 
thread from either the ECF folks or the rest of my Technology PMC compadres.
Is it just that everyone is busy with Galileo? Or is there really no 
interest in embedding a newsgroup client into Eclipse?

Does ECF have nothing to say about the possibility of this falling under 
their umbrella?

Does nobody think a general "Community Outreach" project with real 
technology deliverables (like a news reader) is worthwhile?

I was hoping this would spark some discussion...

Eric


Eric Rizzo wrote:
> Wim Jongman wrote:
> > Dear Technology PMC,
> >
> > I have created an Eclipse based newsreader and I would like that to be
> > part of Eclipse. Do you think a newsreader would fit in the Technology
> > project?
> >
> > I was first directed to the Tools project but Tools thought it should
> > either be Technolgy or EFC.
> >
> > Here is a link to a small movie and a screenshot of the software.
> >
> > http://screencast.com/t/xJVwt3lgMPD
> > http://screencast.com/t/iJHIVdpZv
> >
> > The discussion on the Tools list can be found here:
> > http://dev.eclipse.org/mhonarc/lists/tools-pmc/
>
> Cool! It looks to be a somewhat complete NNTP client, but does it
> include message composition or is it only reading/browsing? How about
> searching? In other words, what parts are complete and what parts still
> need to be implemented?
>
> My idea for a broader project are centered around the questions of "how
> can we better engage the user community?" I know at least Wayne and I
> have been thinking about that for a while, and I think that there are
> several related things that we could provide in the Eclipse workbench
> that would reach out to the users and pull them in as contributors. In
> no particular order, my ideas so far are:
> * Newsgroup client
> * IRC client (I think ECF already has this?)
> * More obvious "Enter a bug or feature request" (Mylyn contributes a
> menu option currently, but I don't think many people know about it and I
> don't know how simple it is to use)
> * Embedded browsing of the Resources content from www.eclipse.org
> * Embedded search of www.eclipse.org
>
> I think that the newsgroup client is, by far, the best of these ideas,
> and I'm thrilled that there is Wim's project to use as a starting point.
> But I also am pretty confident that unless it is shipped in the base
> platform (or at least the EPP packages), it won't get wnough traction
> and visibility to reach all of those users who don't participate now.
>
> What do the other PMC members think about this broader vision for a
> "community involvement" tech project? Any ideas for other things that
> would fit into such a project? Does the idea have legs, or would we
> better off running with just the news client?
>
> Wim, is the source for your newsreader available somewhere?
>
> Eric