| Re: [ecf-dev] shared editing design thought |
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Hi Remy, Yeah, it is related to this code. No, it's not a mis-commit. I could not find a way to dynamically create/add command IDs to the ICommandService (I think)...so these commands are declaratively defined, and then used dynamically in the Roster Menu (i.e. the dynamic code uses the existing commandIDs). I found it strange that it didn't seem possible with menuContributions to create/add command ids dynamically, and asked Paul Webster about/complained about it in IRC, but it doesn't seem to be possible (creating adding command ids programmatically). I did try the dynamic menu creation without declaring these command ids (to see if command ids would be implicitly created), but it didn't work. In any event, if you know of or find a way to have this code (AbstractRosterMenuContributionItem.createContributionItemsForEntry) work without these declarations then please let all know. Scott Remy Chi Jian Suen wrote: Is this plugin.xml change related to this code? http://dev.eclipse.org/viewcvs/index.cgi/org.eclipse.ecf/plugins/org.eclipse.ecf.presence.ui/plugin.xml?root=Technology_Project&r1=1.22&r2=1.23 Looks like a mis-commit. On 10/30/07, Mustafa K. Isik <isik@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:Good Stuff. I'll try it out once I am home ... On Oct 30, 2007 6:08 PM, Scott Lewis <slewis@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:Hi Folks, I've added some classes to create 'Roster Menus' as per the original posting on this thread. I put up a new wiki page describing this and showing a quick test/demo here: http://wiki.eclipse.org/Roster_Menus It's pretty cool, I think, as it would allow easy addition of arbitrary communications to existing editors, views, etc. Any thoughts/comments, etc are appreciated. Scott Scott Lewis wrote: Hi Chris, Chris Aniszczyk wrote: +1 This work will probably encompass taking some of the roster information offline which is a good thing. I don't really expect so at this point...as even if the roster information is available persistently offline, it doesn't make much sense to expose actions/commandhandlers (like share current editor with soandso, etc) because the actions are generally worthless when offline (e.g. you can't start a shared editing session with a user that is offline). If I have some spare cycles I would love to help. That would be great. I think the trickiest bits will have to do with setting/resetting the command handlers dynamically (with the IServiceLocator I guess). I expect you, Remy, and Boris have more knowledge of this than I do so anything that shows doing this sort of thing (creating menus dynamically, and assigning actions to dynamically constructed items) would be helpful. I also noticed that ECF hasn't submitted anything to EclipseCon yet :) https://eclipsecon.greenmeetingsystems.com/submissions I noticed that too. I will be submitting something...probably around remote OSGi services and/or ECF overview, but I haven't decided what. I hope that we can get other submissions from committers...i.e. around topics such as RT Shared Editing Presence and IM APIs Bots Committer Community, IRC, XMPP, and Communication Discovery VOIP Others of interest... These are just some ideas. I imagine others have other ideas as well. Scott Cheers, --- Chris Aniszczyk | IBM Lotus | Eclipse Committer | http://mea-bloga.blogspot.com | +1.860.839.2465 Scott Lewis ---10/27/2007 06:07:45 PM---Hi Folks, We at BEA have/will/are doing some work with using ECF to add real-time From: Scott Lewis <slewis@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: "Eclipse Communication Framework (ECF) developer mailing list." <ecf-dev@xxxxxxxxxxx> Date: 10/27/2007 06:07 PM Subject: [ecf-dev] shared editing design thought ________________________________ Hi Folks, We at BEA have/will/are doing some work with using ECF to add real-time shared editing to commercial and OS editors...i.e. text editors, structured editors (e.g. java, other langs, xml, etc), graphical editors, and the like. I was thinking yesterday was that it is typically unnecessarily difficult to setup a sharing/editing session. It usually has to be explicitly done by one or both participants prior to the actual shared editing...and it's often error prone. This is true also of the existing cola shared editor...the setup of the shared editing session is kind of cumbersome. I had one thought about how this could be easier...and I thought I would throw it out to the mailing list: Let's assume that user 'slewis' has a (e.g.) text editor open. At a certain point, they decide that they would like to initiate a shared editing session with another party (e.g. 'codesurgeon'). At that point, 'slewis' has to initiate a shared editing session. What if they simply opened the editor's context menu, and chose 'Share'->codesurgeon...and this initiated a shared editing session with codesurgeon. This begs the question, though...where does the 'Share'->codesurgeon menu come from? My answer: Using Eclipse's new dynamic menu contribution mechanisms, it could be dynamically created from the ECF Contacts/buddy list. That is, when the user chose 'Share' it could produce a menu hierarchy that corresponded to the entries in the contacts list (whatever the active ones happened to be at that moment)...allowing the initiator to choose the target user for the shared editing session. The Eclipse menu contribution mechanisms should allow this (i.e. dynamic creation of hierarchical menus...plus the ability to retarget actions), and ECF allows programmatic access to the buddy list via IPresenceContainerAdapter.getRosterManager(). Further, it would be possible to add such a thing in a new plugin (rather than modifying the existing editor's code) to increase separation of concerns. Any thoughts/comments about this approach? Scott Let's also That is, between...perhaps one way on how to setup a 'session for shared editing' (between 2 participants is initial focus...2+ will probably be for later). _______________________________________________ ecf-dev mailing list ecf-dev@xxxxxxxxxxx https://dev.eclipse.org/mailman/listinfo/ecf-dev ________________________________ _______________________________________________ ecf-dev mailing list ecf-dev@xxxxxxxxxxx https://dev.eclipse.org/mailman/listinfo/ecf-dev ________________________________ _______________________________________________ ecf-dev mailing list ecf-dev@xxxxxxxxxxx https://dev.eclipse.org/mailman/listinfo/ecf-dev _______________________________________________ ecf-dev mailing list ecf-dev@xxxxxxxxxxx https://dev.eclipse.org/mailman/listinfo/ecf-dev_______________________________________________ ecf-dev mailing list ecf-dev@xxxxxxxxxxx https://dev.eclipse.org/mailman/listinfo/ecf-dev_______________________________________________ ecf-dev mailing list ecf-dev@xxxxxxxxxxx https://dev.eclipse.org/mailman/listinfo/ecf-dev |