Hi Kerri,
Thanks for letting us know about this project. First off, would you be
able/willing to contribute your work back to the ECF project? (under
Eclipse Public License)? It sounds like some of what you are doing
with team task creation could/will be helpful for ECF and perhaps
several other projects at the EF (Mylar, Corona).
Edlund, Kerri L wrote:
Hello,
My name is Kerri. My
friend Sarah and I are working on
a new plug-in for Eclipse as our Major Project in college at Worcester
Polytechnic Institute. We will be utilizing ECF so that teams
(SourceForge teams) can hold meetings. We are thinking that we will
make
the chat editable because we want the user(s) to be able to connect to
SourceForge and create tasks to put into their project from the chat.
We
want the users to be able to highlight text within the chat (and be
able to
edit it, if necessary) and form there they will be able to right click
and
assign the task. A GUI will pop up so that the user can fill in all of
the necessary details for the task and then submit it. After
submission,
the task will go into the team’s SourceForge project.
Very cool. Early on with ECF the committers had discussed creating
something similar to this...basically something to allow team task
creation and assignment from within a collaboration/meeting space.
One thing I would be a little careful of, however...the ability to edit
chat text (especially someone else's chat utterances) can be somewhat
confusing for participants, as it means that the 'history' of the
conversation is then not identical among all participants...and this
can be interpreted incorrectly by people ("I didn't say that"). You
might want to give the use case a little thought to be sure that if you
allow people to edit the chat text directly that you indicate somehow
that this has happened...or provide some 'fixed' view (normal chat)
along with an editable view/copy. Just some thoughts.
I am writing this e-mail
becaucse we were wondering if anyone
had any ideas as to how this could be done. As of now, ECF’s chat
pane is not editable and so that will definitely need to change, but
should we
recreate, or extend?
I think if you are certain that you want it to be an editor (rather
than, say bringing up an editor for text from the chat) you should
recreate. Actually, I would suggest that you 'recreate but reuse'.
What I mean by this is that the current chat UI
(org.eclipse.ecf.example.collab.ui.LineChatView) is a view (extends
ViewPart) and it probably could pretty easily be made into an
editor...by creating new classes that are modified versions of the
existing classes (modified to extend EditorPart rather than ViewPart).
You could create a new editor-based chat, and reuse the relevant code
from the ECF example collab UI and/or the org.eclipse.ecf.ui classes.
BUT I want to caution that particularly the example collab codebase is
not particularly well designed (I can say this for sure as I did it
myself several years ago while learning SWT/JFace)...especially to be
an editor rather than a view. I've been actually thinking that I would
like to replace this interface work totally with something done by
someone that knows SWT/JFace much better than me (I'm mostly a network
code/middleware person)...perhaps this could be one result from this
project? Would you be willing to consider contributing such work back
to ECF/EF or other projects?
Is what I described above
a good idea? What
changes would you make? How would you do this? Just some questions
to think about so that we can get some feedback and hit the ground
running with
it. Thank you for your time and assistance.
Yes, I do think it's a good idea. I'm also copying Mik Kersten on this
thread (lead of the Mylar project: http://www.eclipse.org/mylar/) as we
have been trying to combine ECF and Mylar for some time now and perhaps
this will provide an opportunity to do so.
Please let us know (via this list and/or ecf newsgroup) how you proceed
and how we can help further.
Thanks,
Scott
Sincerely,
Kerri Edlund
Worcester Polytechnic
Institute - 2007
Computer Science Major
Spanish Minor
CAS101 Counselor
WICS (Women in Computer
Science) President
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