| Re: [cdt-dev] [epp-dev] Mylyn in C/C++ EPP? |
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Mylyn Builds in not in the C/C++ EPP currently. Are you suggesting it should be added? Hudson/Jenkins support can be added with the "Install connectors" UI so it's pretty easy.
But I think this is changing the subject a bit.
Agreeing on a common baseline is quite difficult I think. Right now, mylyn.hudson is only in RCP, Committers and Java, so I would not say it's in a "common baseline". I don't want people to get the wrong impression: I'm suggesting that those features are not useful, just wondering if they should be there as default. I'm not sure adding a lot to the packages is the right solution for the problem of discoverability of features. Regards, Marc-Andre From: Konstantin Komissarchik [konstantin.komissarchik@xxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Monday, 19 October 2015 1:59 PM To: Marc-André Laperle; Eclipse Packaging Project; CDT General developers list. Subject: RE: [epp-dev] [cdt-dev] Mylyn in C/C++ EPP? Don’t forget the builds/hudson/jenkings integration. In my opinion, these type of decisions should not be made at a per-package level. I would urge package owners to not deviate unnecessarily from a common baseline.
- Konstantin
We could just keep the "Mylyn Task List" feature. I'm not sure Bugzilla is really needed as there are so many other popular bug trackers
and there is an "Install Connectors" UI to find them.
From: epp-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx [epp-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx]
on behalf of Konstantin Komissarchik [konstantin.komissarchik@xxxxxxxxxx] I would urge caution. Mylyn isn’t just context-constraining UI, it’s also integration with the bug tracking systems, which is a feature commonly expected of an IDE. Discoverability of features is a serious problem that Eclipse ecosystem continues to struggle. While insiders would know to install Mylyn if they want this, a developer new to Eclipse would simply conclude that Eclipse lacks integration with bug tracking systems. This isn’t a hypothetical scenario. We’ve seen it unfold with other features and it hurts our competitive position.
- Konstantin
Yeah, it’s a bit sad in a way. The Mylyn gang kindly built the CDT extension for it which encouraged us to add it in to the C++ package. But I have to admit I never use it. I hope others do.
At any rate, it might fit into that category of things that should be in the Marketplace and people can add it on later if they want it.
Doug.
From: <cdt-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx> on behalf of Marc-André Laperle <marc-andre.laperle@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Hello,
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