Re: [cdt-dev] Multicore Visualizer in EPP

["Oberhuber, Martin" <Martin.Oberhuber@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

Fully agree with Doug, plus I'd recommend adding an Eclipse Marketplace listing for the Visualizer. Then 

- adding it to _any_ Eclipse is as simple as drag-and-drop it in there (perhaps somebody wants it in the Automotive package?)
- On Marketplace you can write about what it is, how it helps, first steps, ...
- You get download statistics and clickthrough statistics for free
- You get a forum for initial questions & answers for free (the "comments" on the marketplace)
- You even get error reports about download errors that sometimes tell you about the odd configs where people try it

Since I've added the "TCF Terminals" to the Marketplace I believe this has been the best step I've ever taken for TCF.
Look at the "Metrics" tab for TCF Terminals to see what I mean:
http://marketplace.eclipse.org/content/tcf-terminals

And it just took me an hour or so to write up the listing ... it's really really easy to do.

HTH,
Martin
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-----Original Message-----
From: cdt-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:cdt-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Doug Schaefer
Sent: Thursday, June 05, 2014 5:35 PM
To: CDT General developers list.
Subject: Re: [cdt-dev] Multicore Visualizer in EPP

I'm not sure I agree. As I've learned from the downloads analysis, putting something in the EPP doesn't guarantee visibility. Of the 150,000 real downloads of the CPP package in Kepler SR2, I imagine almost all of them were desktop devs who wouldn't really benefit fro the visualizer. It's a pretty specialized tool. I was even thinking of removing the Cross GCC support since it just gets in the way.

I think the CPP package serves best as an entry point into C++ tools for Eclipse. Most people new to that world are just trying it out on the desktop. From there they can add features they find useful and support for embedded development.

At any rate, we certainly shouldn't be doing this for Luna since we just passed RC3.

IMHO, if you want the visualizer to get more visibility, write about it and get your blog rebroadcast on Planet Eclipse. Make the CDT website a place where people can get all that information, etc. Just putting it into a build isn't getting the results you want.

Doug.

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From: cdt-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx [cdt-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx] on behalf of Marc Khouzam [marc.khouzam@xxxxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Thursday, June 05, 2014 10:46 AM
To: 'CDT DEV (cdt-dev@xxxxxxxxxxx)'
Subject: [cdt-dev] Multicore Visualizer in EPP

Hi,

Alvaro and Marc-Andre pointed out that the Multicore Visualizer is not part of the EPP package.
We never discussed it before, but I think to get more visibility it would be good to include it.
It is a little late but such a change would be safe I find.

Unless there is disagreement, how would we go about including it in EPP?

Thanks

Marc
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