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From: cdt-dev-admin@xxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:cdt-dev-admin@xxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf
Of Sebastien Marineau
Sent: Wednesday,
January 19, 2005 5:14 PM
To: cdt-dev@xxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [cdt-dev] FW:
CDT/embedded sessions at EclipseCon
Hi folks,
Concerning the BOFs, I did get information
back from the EclipseCon organizers -- please see the email from Bjorn further
below. The bottom line is that we have the freedom to organize our own BOFs, as
well as set the schedule.
To get the ball rolling, our original
proposal was to hold 2 BOFs, as listed below.
Eclipse CDT BOF:
Meet the experts
and discuss the implementation and direction of CDT. The format will likely be
a series of mini-overviews on different aspects of CDT along with open
discussions.Intel, IBM, QNX and Redhat have volunteered to present here. We
will also try to get a few customers to present their experiences.
Remote
development and debugging BOF:
TI, HP,
Montavista and IBM have expressed strong interest in hosting this. The main
focus would be on the specific challenges of using Eclipse and CDT in a
host/target configuration, both for development and debugging. This spans the
range from deeply embedded (TI) to traditional embedded (Mvista) to the
server/mini types of apps (HP and IBM). I also expect we can get a couple of
customers to participate in this as well.
My suggestion is
to schedule these for the Tuesday and Wednesday - the general CDT BOF on
Tuesday the 29th, and the remote development/debugging BOF on Wednesday (March
1st).
As for the
content, I do know that additional companies (e.g. Windriver) have expressed
interest in participating, so maybe we can start by having everyone throw out
what they'd like to contribute (discussion topics, mini-presentations, demos
etc) and we'll collect it into the BOF "program".
Cheers,
Sebastien
From: Bjorn
Freeman-Benson [mailto:bjorn@xxxxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Wednesday,
January 19, 2005 4:21 PM
To: 'Dwight Deugo';
sebastien@xxxxxxx
Subject: RE: CDT/embedded sessions
at EclipseCon
Please forward this clarification to the CDT mailing list -
thank you.
I, as the EclipseCon Organizing Chair / Final Arbitrar of
All Things EclipseCon, received a forwarded copy of this CDT mailing list and
I'd like to take the opportunity to set the record straight / clarify the
situation...
Hello All,
While working out some issues with my registration I just
got word from Meeting Strategies Worldwide (they're doing the registration etc
for EclipseCon) that the decision on which BOFs to go with will be made onsite.
Yes, you read that right - onsite on the day of.
This means that if we want to do a BOF we will have to
submit our proposals yet again.
Relevant text quoted:
I have just received word
today that all BoF submissions have been neither accepted nor rejected –
all BoFs will now be decided upon onsite at the conference. An email will
be sent very soon, to all people who have submitted BoFs detailing the process
for getting their BoF submitted onsite.
It might be worthwhile to not rely on the
EclipseCon organizers for this and organize a BOF ourselves - does anyone from
the Bay area got some meeting space they could donate? ;^)
We (and by this I mean the Singular We,
i.e., me) decided to organize the BOFs at EclipseCon 2005 exactly the
same way they were run at EclipseCon 2004. We made this choice because it
is organizationally much simpler. Here's how it worked last year and here's how
it's going to work this year:
- One goal for BOFs
is to facilitate the informal gathering of similarly interested attendees.
- Another goal for
BOFs is to make the process of gathering for a BOF as simple as possible
for everyone involved.
- Another goal is to
make best use of the meeting space we have available. Thus we want to
provide the larger rooms to the BOFs with more people and the smaller
rooms to those with fewer people.
- An explicit negative
goal for BOFs is to prevent their being hijacked by companies using them
as advertising pitches. Allowing BOFs to be pre-scheduled has, at other
conferences, allowed them to be taken over by marketing types.
So, here's the process - it's very simple
and I think you'll find that it easily meets your needs as well our overall
goals:
- At EclipseCon there
is a bulletin board. Beside the bulletin board are blank sign-up
sheets.
- You arrive at the
conference, you go to the bulletin board, you take a sign-up sheet and
write "CDT" in the title box. You thumb tack it on the bulletin
board.
- During the day,
interested people sign up on the sheets on the board for the BOFs they are
interested in.
- At 5pm, the organizers
(that's me or one of the other volunteers) looks at the attendance of each
of the BOFs on the board and assigns them to rooms by writing, in big
letters, the room name (e.g., Seaside B) on the page.
- After enjoying the
free food at the reception that evening, people wander by the bulletin
board to learn which room their BOF is assigned to.
This process meets the goals:
- People can decided
to meet in a BOF in advance or at the last minute. If you want to schedule
it in advance, simple agree amongst all your colleagues that you are going
to have a BOF on, say, Tuesday night. Put up a sign-up sheet,
sign-up, and get assigned a room. The BOF I'm involved in (Language
Toolkits and Universal IDEs) is doing exactly that - see the announcement
that Chris Laffra posted to the eclipse.eclipsecon newsgroup.
- Simple physical
sheets of paper are easy. Without having to write any complex programs,
they allow us to easily allocate rooms by size and they are easy for the
people attending the conference to sign up on and to read.
- Allocating rooms at
5pm the day-of allows us to make the best use of space. There
are plenty of rooms, but some of them are very small and I'd hate to have
to pre-guess the size of each BOF. I know I don't know whether CDT or WTP
is going to draw a larger crowd. This way we will know.
- Not pre-scheduling
BOFs prevents vendors from using them as advertising rooms because they
can't say "come by room X at time Y to hear us talk about product
Z". It allows you and your colleagues to do so, because you are
collectively agreeing to meet, but it prevents sales pitches because in
those cases there is no collective agreement - it's a one-way
communication.
So, by all means, please schedule a CDT
BOF. I look forward to your having a really great time at the conference, and I
apologize if this mechanism was not explained to you before. Mea culpa...
EclipseCon Organizing Chair