Hi,
as mostly a user I have to agree. It's already confusing today with Asciidoc vs. Asiicdoctor etc. and these old links will stay around for a while.
Why add to the confusion with two more sites?
Cheers,
Lars
Hi Dan,
I've raised this before but as there hasn't been much discussion until now, let me wade in again: Could you please outline how is asciidoc-lang.org better than lang.asciidoc.org?
The former invites confusion and suggests two different/independent (and thus possibly competing) initiatives. The latter makes it clear that the Language project is firmly within the "official" AsciiDoc family (while allowing for a totally separate web presence from asciidoc.org).
Regards,
Robert
On Fri, DecĀ 4 20 16:37, Dan Allen wrote:
> Graeme,
>
> Thank you for your feedback. You need not feel like just a spectator here.
> Everyone is welcome to participate. And if you're participating, you are
> part of this community.
>
> It may seem unnecessary to have multiple domains right now, but trust that
> this is going to give us room to grow. I assure you this is not an
> indicator of fragmentation. Rather, it's about specialization. The AsciiDoc
> Language project needs it's own domain (asciidoc-lang.org) that's
> exclusively focused on the language, its artifacts, and the TCK. It's not a
> marketing / advocacy site. It's a project site. This mirrors what many
> other languages do, such as Ruby, Swift, Rust, etc. The asciidoc.org site
> will then be a portal for the ecosystem and all the places AsciiDoc is
> used. So the scope is much, much broader. We haven't yet decided whether
> this is the same as the Working Group website or a separate site. We'll
> communicate those plans once we're ready to discuss them. But whatever we
> decide there, it will not affect asciidoc-lang.org.
>
> Best Regards,
>
> -Dan
>
> On Wed, Dec 2, 2020 at 4:10 PM Graeme Smecher <gsmecher@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> wrote:
>
>> Hi Dan,
>>
>> Looks great.
>>
>> I'm a spectator here, so I'm reluctant to offer criticism. However, I
>> still see asciidoc-lang.org as a separate domain name in the slides.
>>
>> I wanted to echo the earlier discussion: there is already a natural
>> landing site for all things AsciiDoc on asciidoc.org, and sprouting a
>> whole new domain seems artificial and will confuse users (especially new
>> users, who are your growth path.) If a new domain is what's most
>> expedient, perhaps that's a hint about fragmentation within the AsciiDoc
>> ecosystem (which this project is supposed to reverse.)
>>
>> Again, thanks for all your hard work. I'm excited to see where this leads.
>>
>> cheers,
>> Graeme
>>
>> On 2020-12-02 2:48 p.m., Dan Allen wrote:
>> > In order for this Working Group to continue into 2021 and beyond, we
>> > must submit a Program Plan and Budget for approval by the Eclipse
>> > Foundation. The program plan outlines our objectives for the coming year
>> > and informs the budget. The budget then determines the fees for Partner
>> > Members. (We will also be looking for resources from within the group as
>> > well as alternate sources of funding to help support the proposed
>> > activities outlined in the program plan).
>> >
>> > You can find the Program Plan and Budget in the links below.
>> >
>> > Program Plan::
>> >
>> https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/13x9Yx1JafkqZQx7sG4BHSLJ4-N0rWOU-L72zJmrqjvw/edit
>> > <
>> https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/13x9Yx1JafkqZQx7sG4BHSLJ4-N0rWOU-L72zJmrqjvw/edit
>> >
>> > Budget::
>> >
>> https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1cg8GU-4zj2V1YqNQjeXNq0rtnZV4KuPjKm86qczAmvo/edit?usp=sharing
>> > <
>> https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1cg8GU-4zj2V1YqNQjeXNq0rtnZV4KuPjKm86qczAmvo/edit?usp=sharing
>> >
>> >
>> > Both documents are in DRAFT. However, the Eclipse Foundation needs us to
>> > vote on them very soon, so they won't be in draft for much longer. Feel
>> > free to review and share any feedback you may have in this thread.
>> >
>> > Best Regards,
>> >
>> > -Dan
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