| Re: [andmore-dev] Andmore Questions |
A couple of answers as I'm catching up here.
As Mike has said the project is all volunteer based right now and the goal was mainly to get the old ADT and Motrola Dev tools over to a place where they could be maintained by the community. With this said, our barrier to becoming a committer is pretty low. Just need to submit some pull requests (we do use GitHub for PRs), and if the majority of the existing team wants to move to using GitHub Issues, I'm fine with that as well. I know some team members would rather use Gerritt, but it really doesn't matter to me in the long run.
There are a lot of changes starting to happen with the Development tools and SDK apis that we rely on from the Android tools project. They are deprecating the way the android emulator is running, so the project will need to adapt to that, we still need good AAR support and the APK LIBs needs to be gone. We also could use Gradle integration. A proof of concept was started but never really got beyond that stage.
Unfortunately, my time is almost nill right now in actually being able to do anything with the code besides just do some general management and approvals of pull requests. We need people that have the desire and the need to use Eclipse as their Android Development environment. So, please do consider contributing patches and other items, I'm sure the rest of the small team we have here would appreciate the help as well.
Andmore is and always will be what the community as a whole makes it.
Any questions you guys have please feel to post this mailing list.
Today's Topics:
1. Re: Andmore questions (Don Wills)
2. Re: Andmore questions (Mike Milinkovich)
3. Re: Andmore questions (Kaloyan Raev)
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Date: Tue, 7 Mar 2017 23:05:51 -0700
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L. - Actually, we've gotten Andmore to work. We can successfully build for three targets: an APK for deployment on a real device, testing with the Google simulator and testing with the Genymotion simulator.
However, it's been pretty much a guessing game as to how things fit together, particularly for our group which hasn't done much prior Android development. How-to tutorials would be wonderful, as would a responsive place for dumb user questions (I have no preference - email list, forum, Stack Overflow, Reddit, whatever would be fine).
H - I agree with your sentiments about AndroidStudio/IntelliJ IDEA for several reasons (not the least of which is that it is Swing-based). And I'm also not a fan of GitHub as it forces you to use Git which I am less than enamored with (we use all of the big three in various roles: Subversion, Mercurial and Git).
Don Wills
On Mar 7, 2017, at 10:43 PM, Harshad RJ <harshad.rj@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:-------------- next part --------------
I love Eclipse, and find AndroidStudio / IntelliJ very cumbersome to use. So I say this out of love for the platform (and I think I said this before, so forgive me for repeating the same, but):
The Eclipse.org development model is very old-fashioned and difficult to rally with. Mailing lists? Bugzilla?
We need something like github / gitlab, where issues can be filed easily, cross-referenced in commits, PRs and reviews. This is mainly for the developers, but it also helps users to see all that action and get involved.
Also, there are a lot of Android and Java developers on reddit. There's /r/java, /r/eclipse and /r/androiddev, but nobody to speak up there. Ok /r/java is active but very biased towards IntelliJ. Perhaps we could create a subreddit for andmore, or be active on /r/eclipse, /r/androiddev?
-H
On Wed, Mar 8, 2017 at 10:59 AM, L. D. James <ljames@xxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:ljames@xxxxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
Mike. Thanks for chiming in. Is this the only place to communicate questions, comments, and support? From Don's message, like me, it appears that he is keeping update with all the developments and trying to use Andmore. Should I post the errors I get when I try to use it?
I'm very active on Stack Exchange. Though it's becoming more and more rare, people are still posting questions from time to time of how to use Eclipse for Android development. If there were a method of making it work, I would go back and reply to the messages where the users are told the only way is to use Android Studio.
If we could get a "Hello World" application to work, I would post the steps to make it work, and I'm sure it would take off. I would even respond to the many emails of people who are having problems installing Android Studio, of the ease of installing and using Eclipse.
I'm sure the fan base would be very large. It's small now because there, as far as I know, Android development isn't supported.
If currently there is a way, I'm surprised I haven't found it, or can't make it work.
Both Eclipse and Android development is very popular. I'm sure the method of having the two combined would be something paramount.
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On 03/07/2017 07:40 PM, Mike Milinkovich wrote:
Don, L.,
We have a bit of a chicken-and-egg conundrum at the moment. Eclipse Andmore has always been an attempt to rally the community around keeping good Eclipse tools for Android current and relevant. So please be part of that rally :)
The team itself is very small, all volunteer, and could certainly use your contributions.
On 2017-03-07 4:00 PM, L. D. James wrote:
I have the same sentiment as you. Andmore appears to be very promising, but I have never been able to get it to work. It might be possible. But I don't know of a support platform. I hung in there with the Google ADT pull in until it has become too for behind to be sufficient functional. I recently started to visit Android Studio. I'm sure it has a lot of potential and can be productive once I get used to using it.
I'll miss the versatility of firing up Eclipse for everything. At present I guess I'll be firing it up for everything except for Android development.
I'll stay on this list. If it starts getting support, and starts working, I'll join in and use it and give whatever support I can toward it's development. But other than that, the Android Studio is the only solution that appears to be available.
I would be happen if someone else chimes in and point out that I'm mistaken. But at least two of us have sought an Eclipse solution, which at present doesn't exist.
-- L. James
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On 2017-03-08 12:43 AM, Harshad RJ wrote:
We need something like github / gitlab, where issues can be filedEclipse projects can host on GitHub if they wish. If Eclipse Andmore
easily, cross-referenced in commits, PRs and reviews. This is mainly
for the developers, but it also helps users to see all that action and
get involved.
wants to move to GitHub, and start using Issues and pull requests, they
can do so.
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