Re: [andmore-dev] Android for Maven Eclipse going UNMAINTAINED

[David Carver <kingargyle@xxxxxxxxx>]

Yeah, I have to try and remember to respond from my gmail account.  Guess it's all those years that spammers used Yahoo addresses to send out junk.

Anyways, hopefully, I can free up more time, but maybe a while yet.   I have other hobbies taking priority currently. :)

On 2/5/16 1:25 AM, Doug Schaefer wrote:

For some reason gmail is bitching about people's yahoo.com addresses and marking them as spam. Will have to keep an eye out for your messages Dave so I don't miss them like I did this one.

But, yes, the IP thing was huge and got us started and is much appreciated. We'll see where this leads. Once I get my Andmore2 thing more functional, we can take a look and see if it's a direction we want to go and start migrating pieces of Andmore1 over to. A fresh start might be easier for new people to jump into. Maybe... At least I'll have something I can use :)

:D

On Thu, Feb 4, 2016 at 3:00 PM, David Carver <d_a_carver@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

Yeah.  We just need to show progress.  I'm hoping in the near future to be able to free up some more time to devote to this, but things are still up in the air.  I did the hardest part getting things through the IP process..  now we just need to enhance things and address the biggest pain points.

Dave

On 2/4/16 1:58 PM, Doug Schaefer wrote:

Cool. I think at this point having Maven support is pretty important, whether we use m2e-android or start from scratch (prefer the former obviously). And, yes, containers are a must. I need to do that for gradle anyway, so once I learn what's entailed, I can help bring up the maven side. Hopefully the two build systems are similar (haven't used Maven yet for Android) so we can keep a similar architecture that they can each plug cleanly into.

I do know a small handful of my contacts in the community are really looking for a way forward with Eclipse tooling for Android. And my view of the community is usually like a tip of the iceberg, or at least that's what I like to think. It's going to take some time but if we keep things simple, we'll get there.

On Thu, Feb 4, 2016 at 11:32 AM, David Carver <d_a_carver@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

I was considering the containers just to organize things.  I know that in Maven, it also explodes out the AAR, but currently m2e-android doesn't have any support for this, but we could add the exploded items to the dependencies.

Dave

On 2/3/16 1:41 PM, Doug Schaefer wrote:

Oh, and BTW, I see that the Gradle build blows apart the AAR and gives me the classes.jar in them as dependencies. Is that how the containers are done on m2e-android? I was wondering how things were working for me on the gradle side without having AAR containers.

On Wed, Feb 3, 2016 at 1:34 PM, Doug Schaefer <cdtdoug@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

Cool. I was just about to ask you that. Where does it override what ADT is doing or is it totally separate?

On Wed, Feb 3, 2016 at 1:32 PM, David Carver <d_a_carver@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

The maven stuff use's M2E's configuration API, so currently m2e-android ties into that existing API and m2e takes care of configuring items.   We could leverage the same AAR containers there.  If we just wanted M2E to handle things and kick off different compilation steps and dexing we need to provide those configuration extension plugins and let m2e know what to do.

Dave

On 2/3/16 1:20 PM, Doug Schaefer wrote:

Cool. Thanks David. I think you're right. Having both would be a good advantage. Bringing it over now while you're looking at it would be great. At least we'll have the source available as we do with the old ADT to reuse bits going forward.

BTW, as per my tweets earlier this week, I do have Andmore2 up and running using the Gradle tooling API and the Android build model. It's pretty rough right now but functions enough to demo. I'll have to see how we'd integrate Maven into that. There are somethings that I'm sure are different like the path to the APKs. A small layer to provide that info wouldn't be too hard.

Let see where this leads.

Doug.

On Wed, Feb 3, 2016 at 1:12 PM, David Carver <d_a_carver@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

Well, you also have to look at what is being used out in the field as well.

1.  Gradle is top priority as that is what the AOSP is using and what Android Studio is using.  However....
2.  In the field, both Gradle and Maven are being used.  In fact the current client I have is a Maven shop, so they went with Maven for their Android builds as well.  Maven supports AARs already and we can do similar things that we do with gradle, allow Maven to build artifacts when necessary, we just have to make the new build system flexible enough to handle it on the Andmore side.
3.  IntelliJ Community edition... supports both Gradle and Maven.

Enterprise customers are using both, and if we can support both going forward we should.   Ricardo did a lot of work on M2E-Android, and I'd personally hate to see it die away, but I also know resources are constrained on the project.

I actually wanted to bring M2E-Android over to Andmore when I brought the rest of ADT it would have been an easier way to get the configuration plugin out to more people.

Anyways, it is up to Ricardo if he wants to contribute the plugin or not, I've got a clone of the repository already, it'll just be much easier to bring it over sooner rather than later if any IP issues or concerns arise.

Dave

On 2/3/16 12:34 PM, Doug Schaefer wrote:

It's pretty clear the future of Android is Gradle. I really appreciate your efforts to get m2e working for Android projects. Unless we have someone contributing to Andmore who wants to take it further, I don't think it's worth that effort. But that's just my thoughts.

Doug.

On Wed, Feb 3, 2016 at 12:23 PM, Ricardo Gladwell <ricardo@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

What does it mean to donate the code? How much work is that?

— https://gladwell.me

> On 3 Feb 2016, at 17:02, David Carver <kingargyle@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
> Ricardo, have you considered doing a code donation to the Andmore project for the existing code?
>
> This way it can be maintained going forward with the rest of the Andmore code.  I'm willing to help get the code in shape and help it through the IP process.
>
> Dave
>
>
> On 2/3/16 10:57 AM, Ricardo Gladwell wrote:
>> Dear All,
>>
>> After 5+ years of development work I’m putting Android for Maven Eclipse (m2e-android) into unmaintained mode.
>>
>> Unfortunately, time constraints prevent me from giving m2e-android the kind of attention it needs, not just to stay maintained and compatible with API changes (in m2e, the ADT, the Eclipse Project *and* Maven itself) but to add new features which this plugin sorely needs. Also, the hostility and lack of upstream support this project receives reduces motivation.
>>
>> If anyone would like to take over maintenance of m2e-android I’d be happy to give contributor access, or redirect or link to a new project. Just get in touch with your proposal
>>
>> I’ll also be putting the Patreon campaign to bed and cancelling everyone’s generous patronages.
>>
>> Thanks once again to all the other contributors that have helped support m2e-android, including (but not limited to) Hugo Josefson, Manfred Moser, Anthony Dahanne, Mykola Nikishov, Benoit Billington, David Carver and, of course, Csaba Kozák. It has been a valuable learning experience working with amazing developers from across the globe.
>>
>> All the best with your own endeavours.
>>
>> Regards...
>>
>> — https://gladwell.me
>>
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