Re: [Corona-dev] Re: [wtp-dev] Viewing SVG in Mozilla Firefox

[Lawrence Mandel <lmandel@xxxxxxxxxx>]

Arthur,

Even when this problem is fixed in Mozilla
it will still not work for clients who have not upgraded their browsers
to the latest version or clients who choose to use older browsers. When
the WTP site move to XSLT it was immediately reported that Opera 6.*, Opera
7.*, Mozilla *.*, Firefox 1.0, KDE, Netscape 3.* and Lynx couldn't render
the site. [1]

I think where possible we should support
as many browsers as possible by performing transforms on the back-end.
This way we can reach the widest audience.

[1] http://dev.eclipse.org/newslists/news.eclipse.webtools/msg02245.html


Lawrence Mandel

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IBM Rational Software
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Arthur Ryman/Toronto/IBM@IBMCA
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Subject	Re: [Corona-dev] Re: [wtp-dev] Viewing SVG in Mozilla Firefox

Lawrence, 

I expect the SVG support in Mozilla to improve. It is passible now, but
not great. Maybe Jeff could report the rendering "bug" to Mozilla.
It seems better to correct the problem than to work around it.

There is also an alternative approach, which is to configure Firefox to
use the SVG viewer that comes from Adobe. For some reason that wasn't working
in Firefox. I'll poke around to see if that can be made to work.

Arthur Ryman,
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Lawrence Mandel/Toronto/IBM@IBMCA
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04/13/2005 12:22 PM

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Subject	[Corona-dev] Re: [wtp-dev] Viewing SVG in Mozilla Firefox

Arthur, 

The community jumped all over us when we suggested IE be used until the
XSLT problem was resolved with the web site. Although this graph is meant
for developers, it seems reasonable to expect some people from the community
will want to take a look at it as well. Where possible I think we should
do page transformations on the back-end to avoid specific browser requirements.

Jeff - Is there a way to generate this graph on the back-end and just send
an image to the browser? 


Lawrence Mandel

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Arthur Ryman/Toronto/IBM@IBMCA
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04/12/2005 09:11 PM

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Subject	[wtp-dev] Viewing SVG in Mozilla Firefox

SVG graphics were recently added to the API Progress Reports (kudos to
Jeffrey Liu). These display nicely in Internet Explorer, but you have to
do some work to make them display in Mozilla Firefox, and the result is
not good. My recommendation is to use IE until the Mozilla support is ready
for prime time. 

1. Download the special binary build of Firefox that contains the SVG support.
2. Perform a magic incantation to enable SVG support.
3. The result is passable but not as good as in IE due to the current incomplete
state of the support. 

If this seems like an irresistable challenge to you, read on.

SVG is not included in the normal Firefox builds. You have to download
a special SVG binary from the SVG page [1]. I downloaded the Windows XP
GDI+ build [2]. Unzip this and look for firefox.exe in the bin directory.

Next you have to enable svg support. This is proclaimed in the notice:
There has recently been an important change to SVG enabled builds. SVG
enabled builds now require you to set
the 'svg.enabled' pref to 'true' before they
will render SVG. 

There is probably some prefs file you can edit. However, there is a slick
way to do this via the browser [3]: 
1. Open the magic URL about:config 
2. Filter the listing with svg and look at the line that contains svg.enabled
3. This preference is false by default. Double click it to set it to true

Your're now ready to view SVG. For example [4] displays like this in IE:

But like this in Firefox:

[1] http://www.mozilla.org/projects/svg/build.html#win_gdi_dl
[2] ftp://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/firefox/nightly/contrib/latest-trunk/firefox-win32-svg-GDI.zip
[3] http://weblogs.mozillazine.org/tor/archives/2005/02/important_svg_b.html
[4] http://download.eclipse.org/webtools/downloads/drops/I-I20050412-200504122240/apitools/svg/org.eclipse.jst.server.svg

Arthur Ryman,
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