Re: [udig-devel] walkthrough 1 - refractions postgis instance is unavail

["andrea antonello" <andrea.antonello@xxxxxxxxx>]

Eric,
I looked at your videos with explanation. Those gui studies are
amazing. Thanks for the effort.

I agree with you that we all will need to concentrate on udig core and
usability.

I will wait another bit if somebody can do a product export of udig to
be tested (still hope), then I will try to setup Jesse's headless
building system. Jesse, is the building system currently working?
Should I be able to create the build?

Ciao
Andrea


On Tue, Dec 16, 2008 at 12:32 PM, Eric Jarvies <ej@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> I agree.  The sooner I have a testable OS X version, the sooner I could go
> through it and prepare uDig bug videos showing the problem, and suggesting
> solutions when/where they are not otherwise obvious.  Especially fundamental
> issues.  For example:
>
> 1. In Layers pane, right click on layer, select Properties from contextual
> menu.  user has no ability to COPY text that is displayed in this
> 'properties' window.   Additionally, there is a bug in the Properties menu,
> wherein if a user re-sizes the two panes, and if a row in the right side
> pane contains a long string of text(url), the window will blow-up.  See the
> video to better understand.  Additionally, if the user, at any time, resizes
> this Properties window, uDig should remember this, and upon opening it the
> next time, it should remain the same size as was set previously by the user.
>  uDig, overall, seldom remembers such things throughout the entire
> application.
> http://ericjarvies.com/udig/Properties_pop-up_window-small.mov
>
> 2. In the Table view, a number of things need to be fixed/added to bring it
> up to speed so it can at minimum, serve as a basic data editor.  Right now,
> it is very difficult to use uDig to edit records.  Watch the video, and see
> how I've pointed out about a dozen or so issues.
> http://ericjarvies.com/udig/Table_view_tabbing_copyPaste_importExport_userConfig.mov
>
> 3. etc.
> (i'll add 30 more videos with about 100 items to the list)
>
> I will prepare as many videos as I can that point out lacking features,
> areas that need improvement, and of course bugs.  Also, I will upload
> 640x480 videos, in addition to thumbnail videos(like the above 2), so that
> those of you that are unable to get the point from those small video files,
> can reference the full size and full res files, which of course are
> 10-40mb's each, depending on length.
>
> In my opinion, as part of this sprint, I encourage those capable(coding) to
> really try to concentrate on BASIC functionality, so that uDig can start
> being used as an editor of data.  I understand that a lot of these basic
> features are not as exciting to program/code, as are other features that are
> cooler or a lot neater, but imho, these BASIC functionality features will
> result in more users actually using uDig for more things, like editing
> records, for example.  Right now, I only use uDig for a viewer, because it
> is incapable of being used as an editor, because it lacks basic
> functionality in that department.  Alas, these are fairly straight forward
> issues to address/correct/add, programmatically speaking, so I encourage the
> programming-powers-that-be, to please seriously consider putting these
> towards the top of the priority list(copy, paste, keyboard commands, etc.)
>
> over the next days, I will go through udig from head to toe, and create
> these videos, and as I upload them and post them to the wiki, I would
> appreciate it if all of you could view them, and then edit the wiki to
> reflect which of them are the most important, and which should definitely be
> addressed.  Each video may cover one, some, or many issues at once.
>
> Regards,
>
> Eric
>
>
>
> On Dec 16, 2008, at 1:24 AM, andrea antonello wrote:
>
>> Great Eric and Marks, thanks for the help.
>> I'm really glad things are constantly moving.
>>
>> We still have an important issue to solve: we do not have a working
>> udig product to use for the pre-sprint testing.
>>
>> In my opinion if we do not push out a 1.2 test-version soon we risk to
>> have too few time.
>> I am currently not working hard on trunk, so for me it would be an
>> effort to set up Jesse's build engine right now.
>> Is anyone able to throw out a version "as-it-is-now" without too much
>> effort? Any volunteer?
>>
>> Ciao
>> Andrea
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Dec 16, 2008 at 7:52 AM, Eric Jarvies <ej@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>
>>> ok, i will setup a user account(ssh/sftp) for you to access the server,
>>> which is hosted at slicehost.  i have 2 slices, each at 1gb, so one, or
>>> both
>>> can be used, and if more system resources are needed, i will up the 1gb
>>> to
>>> 2gb, or 4gb if needed.  also, have 2 static ip addresses on each of those
>>> slices.
>>>
>>> eric
>>>
>>> On Dec 15, 2008, at 11:22 PM, Mark Leslie wrote:
>>>
>>>> Eric,
>>>> That's great news.  I've volunteered to get the database setup once
>>>> we've
>>>> made a decision on the data to load (day or two).  Could you contact me
>>>> off-list (mark.leslie@xxxxxxxxxxxx) to sort out account details?
>>>>
>>>> Mark Leslie
>>>> Geospatial Software Architect
>>>> LISAsoft
>>>>
>>>> -------------------------------------------------------------
>>>> Ph: +61 2 8570 5000 Fax: +61 2 8570 5099 Mob: +61
>>>> Suite 112, Jones Bay Wharf 19-21 Pirrama Rd Pyrmont NSW 2009
>>>> -------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>
>>>> LISAsoft is part of the A2end Group of Companies
>>>> http://www.ardec.com.au
>>>> http://www.lisasoft.com
>>>> http://www.terrapages.com
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Eric Jarvies wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> i can provide user accounts for postgresql/postgis, geoserver, and
>>>>> ssh/sftp to a test environment that is up and running(
>>>>> http://CSL.com.mx ).
>>>>> I could provide this between now and the final code sprint work/version
>>>>> release date.   this server can provide psql, wms, wmf, and whatever
>>>>> else
>>>>> anyone feels needs to b running/working for testing purposes.
>>>>> eric
>>>>> On Dec 15, 2008, at 9:06 PM, Jody Garnett wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> uDig walkthrough 1 is looking good; so far the main problem is that
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> PostGIS instance at www.refractions.net is missing. I am not sure if
>>>>>> it can
>>>>>> be turned back on or not. Is this something anyone would be willing to
>>>>>> host?
>>>>>> Connecting to PostGIS is an important user story for walkthrough 1 to
>>>>>> make.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Jody
>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>> User-friendly Desktop Internet GIS (uDig)
>>>>>> http://udig.refractions.net
>>>>>> http://lists.refractions.net/mailman/listinfo/udig-devel
>>>>>
>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>> User-friendly Desktop Internet GIS (uDig)
>>>>> http://udig.refractions.net
>>>>> http://lists.refractions.net/mailman/listinfo/udig-devel
>>>>
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> User-friendly Desktop Internet GIS (uDig)
>>>> http://udig.refractions.net
>>>> http://lists.refractions.net/mailman/listinfo/udig-devel
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
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>>> http://udig.refractions.net
>>> http://lists.refractions.net/mailman/listinfo/udig-devel
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>> _______________________________________________
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>> http://udig.refractions.net
>> http://lists.refractions.net/mailman/listinfo/udig-devel
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