See my comments below,
From: Schaefer, Doug
[mailto:Doug.Schaefer@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Monday, February 16, 2009
6:07 AM
To: Roy Ganor; anthonyh@xxxxxxxxxx
Cc: Tools PMC mailing list
Subject: RE: [tools-pmc] PMC
approval needed for committer vote for Kalin
I was wondering what where the testers
trying to do in Bugzilla that they need committer rights for?
They need to verify, close and reopen issues
as part of the bug cycle.
BTW, Nick Boldt contributes to the build
system which is checked into CVS. That's the only reason he has commit rights.
I have a lot of people testing the CDT, raising bugs, supplying patches, etc.
without making them committers.
I am not following you on this issue –
do you imply that test operations are not counted as contributions? These guys
have opened dozens of issues and verified, closed and reopened hundreds (months
of work). Their contribution to the Eclipse PDT 2.0 (and Galileo) success is
critical since our developers switched infrastructure and our QA made a significant
regression testing. I think that recognizing
our QA testers may lead to a better quality of Eclipse projects, and may fix
the “use at your own risk” perception that is common in many other open
source projects. To summarize my words, I just want to give them an easy way to
work, I don’t really care if the Eclipse community doesn’t count
them as contributors but at least we should give them the right tools as for
now they use a “dummy” contributor which is a major issue that I
want to fix (hey, I am only 2 months in this position, so I need to make small
changesJ).
BTW – who verifies and closes bugs
in your projects?
BTW2, you should join the tools-pmc
mailing list so you can get immediate input on the discussions.
Done,
Thanks a lot,
Roy
Doug.
From: Roy Ganor
[mailto:roy@xxxxxxxx]
Sent: Saturday, February 14, 2009
2:02 AM
To: anthonyh@xxxxxxxxxx
Cc: Schaefer, Doug
Subject: FW: [tools-pmc] PMC
approval needed for committer vote for Kalin
Forwarding this message to Anthony as
well,
- Roy
From: Roy Ganor
Sent: Friday, February 13, 2009
6:11 PM
To: 'Schaefer, Doug'; Tools PMC
mailing list
Subject: RE: [tools-pmc] PMC
approval needed for committer vote for Kalin
Hi PMCs,
Well, these guys are very active testers
who help a lot for the QA side of PDT 2.0 / PDT 2.1.
I asked Denis Roy specifically if there
is a chance to give them permissions to Bugzilla (as testers) and he said no,
you should nominate them as committers and give them permissions to Bugzilla
only.
As you can see the community embraces
them and they have many issues in their list, they are very active. Btw - I
don’t see any problem with nominating people who improve the QUALITY of
the project without actually contribute to it (this is the case with Nick Boldt
who is helping to PDT packaging…)
Please direct me what to do (and you
should consult with Denis how to solve these cases in general)
Thanks for the attention!
- Roy
From: Schaefer, Doug
[mailto:Doug.Schaefer@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Friday, February 13, 2009
5:10 PM
To: Tools PMC mailing list; Roy
Ganor
Subject: RE: [tools-pmc] PMC
approval needed for committer vote for Kalin
Yes, These guys have a bad history of
this. We have rejected committers before.
Roy, what's
the story here?
Doug.
From:
tools-pmc-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:tools-pmc-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Anthony Hunter
Sent: Friday, February 13, 2009
9:43 AM
To: Tools PMC mailing list
Subject: Re: [tools-pmc] PMC
approval needed for committer vote for Kalin
Hi Team,
These two team members are strictly testers who have raised these Bugzillas
against PDT. I guess we need to question their request for commit rights since
they have not actually made any code contributions?
Cheers...
Anthony
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Software Development Manager: Eclipse Open Source Components
IBM Rational Software: Aurora
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Phone: 613-270-4613
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Kalin was nominated by Roy Ganor as follows:
Kalin Arahangelov Yanev is a key player in the
testing effort of PDT.
Kalin carries great responsibility in reporting
the PDT team valuable
issues.
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+1 Roy Ganor
? Shalom Gibly
+1 Gadi Goldbarg
? Guy Gurfinkel
? David Kelsey
? Eden
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+1 Seva Lapsha
? Yaron Mazor
? Alon Peled
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