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[tools-pmc] FW: [cobol-dev] plug-in roadmap

I think this should have been cc'd to the entire Tools PMC.


-----Original Message-----
From: Philippe Ombredanne [mailto:pombredanne@xxxxxxxxx] 
Sent: Sunday, October 21, 2007 7:30 PM
To: 'Development discussions about the COBOL IDE for Eclipse. '
Cc: emo@xxxxxxxxxxx; 'Bjorn Freeman-Benson'; mike.milinkovich@xxxxxxxxxxx;
Doug Schaefer
Subject: RE: [cobol-dev] plug-in roadmap

Benbenek, Waldyn J wrote:
>A number of us have been updating the COBOL Tool kit on our own.  
>There was a set of fixes offered over the list serve to update to make it
work with 3.2.  
>3.3 had a few adjustments as well.  The committers have been unwilling to
formally integrate 
>the changes and release a new version.  
I think this is completely unacceptable from the Cobol project to be un
responsive to the community.
I am escalating that the the Eclipse management.

>Currently, we have our own version running.  All we really care about is
the editor 
>and we have made a number of fixes to that.  The COBOL feature is heavily
oriented 
>to Fujitsu COBOL and the committers don't seem to want to change that
either.  
At that stage, lets wait and see what can happen, but a project take-over
(or fork within Eclipse) could be a solution.
Would you guys be willing to step up there (ie Amdocs and Unisys) ?
As an Eclipse committer, I have been more than annoyed to see the way this
Cobol project has been led, and its lack of leadership.
Cordially
-- 
Cheers
Philippe

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> -----Original Message-----
> From: cobol-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx 
> [mailto:cobol-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Alexander 
> Troyanovsky
> Sent: Saturday, October 20, 2007 11:25 AM
> To: Development discussions about the COBOL IDE for Eclipse. 
> Subject: RE: [cobol-dev] plug-in roadmap
> 
> 
> Thank you all for your replies. It helped me a lot.
> 
> Best regards,
> Alex
> 
> 
>  
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> ------------
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: cobol-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx 
> [mailto:cobol-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Benbenek, Waldyn J
> Sent: Friday, October 19, 2007 7:11 PM
> To: Development discussions about the COBOL IDE for Eclipse. 
> Subject: RE: [cobol-dev] plug-in roadmap
> 
> A number of us have been updating the COBOL Tool kit on our 
> own.  There was a set of fixes offered over the list serve to 
> update to make it work with 3.2.  3.3 had a few adjustments 
> as well.  The committers have been unwilling to formally 
> integrate the changes and release a new version.  
> 
> Currently, we have our own version running.  All we really 
> care about is the editor and we have made a number of fixes 
> to that.  The COBOL feature is heavily oriented to Fujitsu 
> COBOL and the committers don't seem to want to change that either.  
> 
> Good luck,
> 
> Waldyn Benbenek
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: cobol-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx 
> [mailto:cobol-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of jd@xxxxxxxxx
> Sent: Friday, October 19, 2007 1:55 AM
> To: Development discussions about the COBOL IDE for Eclipse. 
> Subject: Re: [cobol-dev] plug-in roadmap
> 
> Hello Alexander,
> 
> as far as I know the windows plug-in never worked. I am currently 
> investigating into the Linux plug-in, but there is incompatibility of 
> framework 3.2 and  plugin, which is older. You should also know, that 
> there is no such thing as a free compiler or debugger for 
> COBOL. This is
> 
> different from the C++ project. There is not much hope for a 
> free version 
> of an IDE as you can see from the number of replies. I wonder 
> if Eclipse
> 
> works for AIX or UX - it is a matter of the manufacturers. 
> Which is your
> 
> target machine? Also consider different dialects of the ANSI language 
> standard. I am working on a COBOL IDE and need some help Till 
> works. The
> 
> path for Columbo is: a) OS command line tool b) windows IDE 
> c) Eclipse IDE 
> d) other machines and languages.
> 
> Regards
> Jens
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