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RE: [tools-pmc] RE: [ve-dev] Contribution on VE with XML editor
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I agree. I'm not sure why the subproject would be an incubator. Why couldn't
we just put the code in an incubator.
Doug Schaefer, QNX Software Systems
Eclipse CDT Project Lead, http://cdtdoug.blogspot.com
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> Guys,
>
> It seems to be a sign of a dysfunctional process when everyone needs to
> create incubating subprojects effectively for no other reason than to take
> advantage of parallel IP. It's just not clear who is being well served
> by
> this additional organizational complexity. Note that for EMF we have the
> EMFT project as its permanently incubating satellite project and that all
> the components for EMFT live under /cvsroot/modeling/org.eclipse.emf along
> with the components for EMF so it makes little real difference whether
> EMFT
> is a separate subproject or not. As such, I don't see that it makes much
> difference whether Tools has multiple incubating subprojects or just one.
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> Ed Merks/Toronto/IBM@IBMCA
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> Jeff wrote:
> >Sure would be good to have that parallel IP process extended to all
> projects ;-)
> +1 :-P
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> As for getting a tools incubator, I agree I think we need one. It does not
> make sense for a tools project to start its onw incubator just because it
> can.
> It does not make sens not have to have the ability to incubate things in
> tools, especially when those are tightly linked to a certain tools
> project.
>
> Note that web tools started theiur own incubator.
> Incubators are in, they are cool.
> Let's do one!
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> --
> Cheers
> Philippe
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> you would have to have a subproject in Technology as well. IMHO it would
> be better to have one general Tools incubator subporject with N
> components
> than N Tech subprojects. Either solution is not great.
> Jeff
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> Jeff,
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> Isn't that what the Technology project is for?! It seems almost ironic
> for the Tools project to have a general purpose incubating subproject
> when
> the entire Technology project exists for this purpose...
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> Ed Merks/Toronto/IBM@IBMCA
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> unfortunately the parallel IP process applies only to "Incubating
> Projects". VE is not incubating. It seems a bit extreme to set up a new
> Tools project to incubate this work. So an interesting question is
> whether
> or not Tools should have a general "Incubator" as we do in the Eclipse
> TLP.
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> Jeff
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> Hi Yves:
> Welcome ! This is a great news.
> Your contributions are very much welcomed and I would love you join the
> project and be a driving force for non-Java visual editing.
> Team, I had a good discussion with Yves on the phone and here is how we
> could go at it:
> 1/ we need a VE incubator for that, so we can welcome new significant
> code
> contributions and benefit from the paralell IP process . Any thought from
> the Tools PMC on how to do that?
> 2/ in the meantime Yves and I will work to prepare his contribution (mini
> ip
> review, package/names space refactoring, notices, licenses etfc) and when
> ready this will be posted in some public for everyone to review
> 3/ at that stage I'll be able to start an IPZilla CQ to get review and
> approval for that contribution
> 4/ then we can vote Yves in asa new committer
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> The interesting things is :
> There are synergies possibilities with the proposed contribution from
> Cathy
> (the VE Groovy extensions)
> There have been request here and on the new group for XML focused VE
> extensions.
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> Thoughts? Feedback?
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> --
> Cheers
> Philippe
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: ve-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:ve-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx] On
> Behalf Of Yves YANG
> Sent: Tuesday, October 16, 2007 1:36 PM
> To: ve-dev@xxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [ve-dev] Contribution on VE with XML editor
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> Hi All,
>
> I'm Yves YANG from Soyatec. I were the CTO of Omondo from 2002 and early
> 2006 and built the key components in EclispeUML. In my new company
> Soyatec,
> I work in a project to edit UI in XML file on top of VE since Mai 2006.
> This
> product is on production now in our custosmer. We think it could be
> profitable for all users if we can contribute this kind of solution in
> Eclipse to promote the XML UI approach, instead of the Java programming.
> Please let me know if you are interested.
>
> Best regards
> Yves YANG
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