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Re: [tools-pmc] Fw: Reviving the Visual Editor project

If the project is abandoned and there are reasonable people willing to stand up and do work/maintenance then it is hard to complain.

Jeff


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[tools-pmc] Fw: Reviving the Visual Editor project






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Ed Merks/Toronto/IBM@IBMCA
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                                      Aniszczyk'" <caniszczyk@xxxxxxxxx>,
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                                      Erik Hecht <erik@xxxxxxxxxx>, Bjorn
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Tools PMC Members,

The VE project appears to be in need of a kick start.  The existing
committers are inactive, i.e., they do not response to notes, newsgroup
questions, nor do they incorporate contributed patches.  A new set of
committers is needed.   Philippe and Erik appear to be good candidates,
although I have yet to get an e-mail response from Erik to any of the notes
I've sent him whereas Philippe appears to be very responsive, so Philippe
appears to be the best candidate to lead the project.

What are your thoughts on this?


Ed Merks/Toronto/IBM@IBMCA
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                                      Aniszczyk'" <caniszczyk@xxxxxxxxx>,
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                                      Erik Hecht <erik@xxxxxxxxxx>, Rich  
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Ed, Phillippe, others,
List of committers:
http://www.eclipse.org/projects/lists.php?list=byproject&param=tools.ve
By activity:
http://dash.eclipse.org/dash/commits/web-app/active-committers.cgi?project=tools.ve

If you want to reboot the project, the Tools PMC should be the ones to
make that happen. I'm definitely in support of rebooting it with new
committers, so get the Tools PMC to advertise the fact to the larger
community and we'll go forward with it.

Ed Merks wrote:
> Philippe,
>
> Chris and I will try to find out who is currently a committer and how we
> can move forward by installing new committers who can take an active role
> in keeping this project viable.  I've copied all the folks who I think
are
> interested parties.  Perhaps Bjorn is in a good position to know who is
> currently a committer and what process should be followed to install a
new
> set of committers for a project that currently appears to be
committerless.
> There appears to be a set of changes to make VE work with Eclipse 3.3 and
> there is a vested community interest in getting these into CVS and
> producing builds for it.   Nick might be able to invest a very small
amount
> of time with build infrastructure if that's necessary.  If anyone has
> constructive suggestions for how to move forward, we're all ears!
>
>
> Ed Merks/Toronto/IBM@IBMCA
> mailto: merks@xxxxxxxxxx
> 905-413-3265  (t/l 969)
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>              "Philippe

>              Ombredanne"

>              <pombredanne@nexb
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>                                        <caniszczyk@xxxxxxxxx>, Ed

>              09/06/2007 10:34          Merks/Toronto/IBM@IBMCA

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> All:
> The Visual Editor project is distress.
> we have been shipping it with EasyEclipse until now, and are stucked
> without committer support which all seem to be awol.
> There are over 400 open bugs, and no commits since May 2007.
> There is a small group of people that care about it, and would want to
> maintain it, even if it minimally for starters.
> The initial and modest goals would be to :
> 1/ update VE such that it can run on 3.3 Europa: there is already a
> patch that has been worked on by Erik Hecht and we tested it nicely with
> 3.3.
> 2/ maintain VE so that it could be part of Ganymede.
> If there is enough momemtum that can be gathered from step one, we could
> move forward and address important bugs and performance issues.
> If nothing is done the project is dead.
> A minimal effort that we are ready to commit can keep it afloat.
> Ed you seem to care lately based on your news posts.
> I would like the topic brought forward at the board meeting (unless we
> can resolve it between committers before then).
> Cordially
> --
> Cheers
> Philippe
> http://easyeclipse.org - http://phpeclipse.net - http://eclipse.org/atf
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