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Re: [sumo-user] Different headways

Thank you for the answer.

After leaving this problem for a few months I had to recently get back at it and it is still unsolved. However, I found out that:
1) The headway problem at the moment of loading a saved state only happens for vehicles of type "rl"
2) The 'rl' vehicle is added to the simulation via the self.k.vehicle.add command, calling the kernel_api.vehicle.addFull inside
3) The other vehicles (of type "other") are added with an inflow - from the saved state
    <flowState id="flow_00" type="other" begin="1.00" departLane="0" departSpeed="25.64" probability="0.410184827871" end="200000000.000000000000" route="routehwy_rear_0" done="11" index="11"/>
4) Looking at the saved state, all vehicles of type "other" have indeed the type listed, while the same does not happen for the rl vehicle - example:
    <vehicle id="flow_00.9" type="other" depart="16.30" departLane="0" departSpeed="25.64" color="100,100,100" route="routehwy_rear_0" distance="0 0" speedFactor="1.035700000000" state="2615 16300 0 5.10 0 0.85 20100 0 0" pos="83.334363758822 78.334363758822 1.944504118608" speed="19.445041186084 19.456978560735" angle="90.000000000000" posLat="0.000000000000" waitingTime="100000 0"/>
    <vehicle id="rl_0" depart="0.10" departLane="0" departPos="0.00" departSpeed="20.00" color="red" route="routeramp_0" distance="379.59 0" speedFactor="1.026700000000" state="29 100 1 0.00 0 4.81 20100 0 0" pos="20.410000000000 15.410000000000 2.000000000000" speed="20.000000000000 20.000000000000" angle="90.000000000000" posLat="0.000000000000" waitingTime="100000 0"/>
    <flowState id="flow_00" type="other" begin="1.00" departLane="0" departSpeed="25.64" probability="0.410184827871" end="200000000.000000000000" route="routehwy_rear_0" done="11" index="11"/>

I tried to manually modify the saved state file (after saving it, but before loading it), adding the correct type to the "rl_0", as
<vehicle id="rl_0" type="rl" depart="0.10" departLane="0" ....
and after loading, the correct headway appears within the simulation -> it seems this is the problem.

From the add.xml file, everything seems ok:
<?xml version='1.0' encoding='UTF-8'?>
<additional xmlns:xsi="http://www.w3.org/2001/XMLSchema-instance" xsi:noNamespaceSchemaLocation="http://sumo.dlr.de/xsd/additional_file.xsd">
  <vType id="rl" accel="3.0" decel="5.5" sigma="0.0" tau="0.1" minGap="2.0" maxSpeed="35.0" speedFactor="1.0" speedDev="0.1" impatience="0.5" carFollowModel="IDM" laneChangeModel="SL2015" lcStrategic="1.0" lcCooperative="1.0" lcSpeedGain="1.0" lcKeepRight="1.0" lcLookaheadLeft="2.0" lcSpeedGainRight="1.0" lcSublane="1.0" lcPushy="1" lcPushyGap="0" lcAssertive="1" lcAccelLat="10"/>
  <vType id="other" accel="3.0" decel="5.5" sigma="0.0" tau="0.1" minGap="2.0" maxSpeed="35.0" speedFactor="1.0" speedDev="0.1" impatience="0.5" carFollowModel="IDM" laneChangeModel="SL2015" lcStrategic="1.0" lcCooperative="1.0" lcSpeedGain="1.0" lcKeepRight="1.0" lcLookaheadLeft="2.0" lcSpeedGainRight="1.0" lcSublane="1.0" lcPushy="1" lcPushyGap="0" lcAssertive="1" lcAccelLat="10"/>
</additional>

It seems to me the solution is to have the type specified also for the 'rl' vehicle in the saved state, but I could not find a nice way to have it besides writing it in the saved state after the saveState command.
Do you have a nicer solution to have the state specified naturally right after the saveState command?

Thank you in advance for your time and answer.
Stefano


On Sun, Apr 2, 2023 at 7:37 AM Jakob Erdmann <namdre.sumo@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> Please let me know if I am missing anything.
Reproducing the example requires the sumocfg (sumo.cfg in your log) and all files that are referenced within the sumocfg.

> although I do .subscribe() and .subscribeLeader() for the rl vehicle, these are not showing in the log file.
The following occurs in your log file:

traci.vehicle.subscribe('rl_0', [82, 86, 80, 64, 50, 84, 66, 67, 177, 101, 132])
traci.vehicle.subscribeLeader('rl_0', 2000)
traci.vehicle.subscribe('rl_0', (104,), 0, 2147483647, {104: ('d', 2000)})
traci.vehicle.unsubscribe('rl_0')
traci.vehicle.subscribe('rl_0', [82, 86, 80, 64, 50, 84, 66, 67, 177, 101, 132])
traci.vehicle.subscribeLeader('rl_0', 2000)
traci.vehicle.subscribe('rl_0', (104,), 0, 2147483647, {104: ('d', 2000)})

Am Di., 28. März 2023 um 18:23 Uhr schrieb Stefano Bonasera <stefano.bonasera@xxxxxxxxx>:
I have attached the log file I retrieved. Please let me know if I am missing anything.
It is interesting to see that, although I do .subscribe() and .subscribeLeader() for the rl vehicle, these are not showing in the log file.
Do you have any idea why this is happening?

Stefano

On Tue, Mar 28, 2023 at 2:32 AM Jakob Erdmann <namdre.sumo@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
The cascading types are expected when you call functions that change vType attributes on a singe vehicle (i.e. traci.vehicle.setLength). In order to change the property only for a single vehicle, the type is cloned every time.
However, the reported information is insufficient to understand the problem. Please provide a minimal failure example. Instead of the traci script, please provide a full log of the traci commands as described here: https://sumo.dlr.de/docs/TraCI/Interfacing_TraCI_from_Python.html#generating_a_log_of_all_traci_commands


Am Mo., 27. März 2023 um 19:40 Uhr schrieb Stefano Bonasera <stefano.bonasera@xxxxxxxxx>:
Hi Jakob,

Thanks for the prompt reply.
What I see in the vType in the saved file for both types is:

<vType id="other" minGap="2.000000000000" maxSpeed="35.000000000000" speedFactor="normc(1.000000000000,0.100000000000,0.200000000000,2.000000000000)" impatience="0.500000000000" maxSpeedLat="1.000000000000" latAlignment="center" minGapLat="0.600000000000" laneChangeModel="SL2015" lcStrategic="1.0" lcCooperative="1.0" lcSpeedGain="1.0" lcKeepRight="1.0" lcSublane="1.0" lcPushy="1" lcPushyGap="0" lcAssertive="1.0" lcImpatience="0.001" lcTimeToImpatience="100" lcAccelLat="10" lcLookaheadLeft="2.0" lcSpeedGainRight="1.0" carFollowModel="IDM" accel="3.0" decel="5.5" tau="0.1"/>

    <vType id="rl" minGap="0.000000000000" maxSpeed="35.000000000000" speedFactor="normc(1.000000000000,0.100000000000,0.200000000000,2.000000000000)" impatience="0.500000000000" maxSpeedLat="1.000000000000" latAlignment="center" minGapLat="0.600000000000" laneChangeModel="SL2015" lcStrategic="1.0" lcCooperative="1.0" lcSpeedGain="1.0" lcKeepRight="1.0" lcSublane="1.0" lcPushy="1" lcPushyGap="0" lcAssertive="1.0" lcImpatience="0.001" lcTimeToImpatience="100" lcAccelLat="10" lcLookaheadLeft="2.0" lcSpeedGainRight="1.0" carFollowModel="IDM" accel="3.0" decel="5.5" tau="0.1"/>

I tried to play around also with the minGap (only difference I see between these two vTypes) and that is indeed influencing the headway - only for the rl type:
1) If minGap = 0: I get the headway as reported above: pre load: 245.65, post load and subscribe: 243.15 (from kernel_api.vehicle.getSubscriptionResults(rl_id))
2) If minGap = 2: pre load: 245.65, post load and subscribe: 245.15 
3) If minGap = 3: pre load: 245.65, post load and subscribe: 246.15

Moreover, if I setLength of a vehicle (as in case #2 above) I see that multiple vTypes are generated with "cascade-like" vType ids as "rl@rl0@rl0'''.

Stefano


On Fri, Mar 24, 2023 at 3:39 AM Jakob Erdmann <namdre.sumo@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
This sounds as if something goes wrong when loading the type of the rl vehicle. Please look into the saved state file and post the line that defines the vType of the rl vehicle.

Am Do., 23. März 2023 um 14:47 Uhr schrieb Stefano Bonasera <stefano.bonasera@xxxxxxxxx>:
Hello,

I use sumo 1.16, interfacing with python.
I noticed a weird behavior when loading and saving state and I hope you can help me explain the motivation behind it

I have only two types of vehicles in my simulation (other and rl). Assume the rl vehicle has as a lead vehicle, say, "flow_15" with an headway of 245.65. I save the state via saveState, and immediately after load the same exact state via loadState. After loading the state I notice that:
1) If I subscribe the quantities I care about + the leader (subscribe()  + subscribeLeader()) for the rl vehicle and I request the subscription results for the same vehicle, the correct leader shows up, but the headway is reduced by half the rl vehicle car length, i.e. 243.15, assuming I am using the default value of 5
2) If I subscribe the rl vehicle (including also VAR_LENGTH), set the length of the vehicle via setLength() and then subscribe the leader through subscribeLeader, then both the correct lead vehicle and headway show up from the subscriptionResults

This change in headway happens only for the type of vehicle "rl", not for the "other" type of vehicle, which present in the subscriptionResults the correct lead vehicle and associated headway.
Is it an intended behavior or am I missing something?
Do you have a better approach to prevent this difference?

Thanks a lot for all the continuous support!

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