Re: [starter-dev] Talk JUGF

[Ondro Mihályi <mihalyi@xxxxxxxxxxx>]

From my experience, the starter is very useful for people that get started with Jakarta EE. I used it in my Jakarta EE course, where it was useful even if the attendees were already experienced with Java EE but wanted to set up a Jakarta EE 10 project fast. It’s also useful at conference talks, even if just to impress people - it looks better than just creating a project in an IDE.

For production code it’s not very relevant but that's not the aim.

And Reza is right, it's also worth talking about the technical aspects of the Starter app, how it works and how it's deployed.

Ondro

On Wed, 28 Jun 2023 at 21:15, Reza Rahman <reza_rahman@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

I believe we have discussed this in the early days at some length already.

I think the answer is that we are in the space that basically all the other starters are in - our job is mostly to make the initial learning and evaluation task easier. Although the way things are structured, it is in theory possible for anyone to use the starter, I think it's highly unlikely an experienced user would want or need this (I don't personally). Things in terms of setting up a Jakarta EE Maven project is actually rather simple. Ditto people that already have their own setup.

Glad the talk went well. Perhaps you can deliver it elsewhere as well? Our implementation approach is technically interesting enough on it's own right and perhaps even applicable outside of Jakarta EE focused audience.

On 6/28/2023 2:40 PM, Alexander Rühl via starter-dev wrote:

The talk went quite well (except for some audio problems which I think is an unsolvable task) – I got one interesting question which I like to throw into this round here:

What is the target audience for the Jakarta Starter?

Assumption was that you either have an experienced Jakarta EE developer who is not in need of a Hello-World-Starter or someone new to the platform who – in a real business world – most likely comes into an existing, often long-lasting project where everything is set and seldom gets the chance to start from scratch.

My personal reasoning is that having a starter, which also bundles the runtime, is not only something which all others also have (and with that fact alone is a good reason to have one as well) but provides a quick starting point for both new programmers coming to Jakarta EE and trying out things as well as experienced ones which come from another framework like Spring and want to compare it.

 

Alex

 

 

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This is awesome! 

 

Sorry I won't be able to watch ( all I know from German is nein and ya) but let us know how that went =D

 

 

 

 

 

Em qua., 28 de jun. de 2023 07:21, Alexander Rühl via starter-dev <starter-dev@xxxxxxxxxxx> escreveu:

Little side note:

Tonight, I will give a talk about the Starter at my local JUG in Frankfurt/Germany.

It will be in German, but just in case someone is interested: https://jugf.github.io/posts/lets-get-started-der-eclipse-starter-fuer-jakarta-ee-28-06-2023/

 

 

 

Regards

Alex

 

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