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Re: [soa-iwg] Roadmap v0.5
Ok...so here's the situation as I understand it. In previous dialog, I've brought up the relevance of OSGi 4.2's RFC119 (Distributed OSGi) to SOA. The people on this list don't seem to actually dispute that relevance (since OSGi 4.2 is quite relevant to the Runtime project in general), but the existing roadmap makes no mention of Distributed OSGi, RFC119, or even plain ol' OSGi.
I've proposed (repeatedly) that the soa-iwg roadmap be enhanced to include RFC119 impl in the SOA package (runtime, not tools). Again, people don't seem to be overtly opposing that, because...it seems to me...the relevance of Distributed OSGi to SOA in the Runtime project is undisputed.
In previous post to this list: http://dev.eclipse.org/mhonarc/lists/soa-iwg/msg00047.html, Zsolt suggested that I 'contribute' by suggesting changes to the roadmap, and then in my previous post on this thread I did so by suggesting that some mention of Distributed OSGi/RFC119 be included. Implicit in that suggestion is the contribution to the working group package of a working, reviewed, released, complete, compliant, implementation of the RFC119 draft specification from ECF. For comments from the actual user community on this implementation see references given on this post http://dev.eclipse.org/mhonarc/lists/soa-iwg/msg00051.html.
Ricco now vetos any such change to the Roadmap, and suggests that only working group members maintain the roadmap document. This would make it effectively impossible for any changes not from the hand of whoever wrote the document (I'm not sure who it is, actually), to effect any introduction of inclusion of RFC119 work into the Roadmap...as so far my protestations about the relevance of RFC119 to the SOA working group have been ignored, while not disputed. Further, membership in the steering committee (the authors of the roadmap I suppose) is apparently limited to those that apparently don't wish to include RFC119 work in the SOA working groups and package, and by Board policy cannot be otherwise (i.e. http://dev.eclipse.org/mhonarc/lists/soa-iwg/msg00012.html). 

So it seems to me that
1) The relevance of RFC119 work to the SOA working group (runtime, not tools) is undisputed 2) There is no means that I can see to effect change to the roadmap to include work on RFC119, as suggestions of relevant additions are so far being ignored by the roadmap authors, and with Ricco's note offers of direct changes are apparently being rejected
This doesn't seem right to me...but maybe someone can explain how it is right. 
Scott


.  Ricco Deutscher wrote:

-1
This roadmap document should contain what the group plans to do, not what the group not plans to do. 
Moreover I suggest that the document will maintained by the members only.

Ricco


Am 04.09.09 02:51 schrieb "Scott Lewis" unter <slewis@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>:

    Hi Zsolt,

    A search through this 0.5 version shows 0 references to 'RFC119'
    or even
    'OSGi'.

    If I add these to this ppt, will you accept it?

    Scott

    Zsolt Beothy-Elo wrote:
    >
    > Please find attached version 0.5 of the roadmap. Following are the
    > changes in the current version
    >
    > - Change Obeo Member Distro for both Milestones
    >
    > - Added involvement of Obeo for Repository feature
    >
    > - Remove Progress from the slides
    >
    > As nobody volunteered for the tool features for Milestone 2 we should
    > either completely remove them from the feature list (and removing
    > slide 7) or replace them by more appropriate features that someone is
    > willing to implement. I kindly ask you for feedback about about this
    > topic.
    >
    >
    > Regards,
    >
    > Zsolt
    >
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