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RE: [smila-dev] new router/listener

Hi,
 
I agree with Sebastian that a listener should only read those message it really wants to process and not all
messages, so we need to use message selectors. It may be "our" queue with only "our" message, but still
we could have specialized workflow processors that provide only a selection of all workflows, so they should
not read messages that they cannot process because they do not contain the needed workflow.
 
Why do you say that the syntax for message selectors is not defined in JMS? There is a syntax specification
in [1]. Or am I confusing something and you mean something different?
 
Also, Derby is surely not an appropriate database when it comes to really high volume scenarios, so we should
do tests with "real" database servers, too. BTW, why do we use Derby at all? The default message store in
ActiveMQ should be a file based storage [2], which should provide better performance (at least they claim it).
 
Cheers,
Juergen.
 


From: smila-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:smila-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Sebastian Voigt
Sent: Thursday, July 31, 2008 5:16 PM
To: Smila project developer mailing list
Subject: RE: [smila-dev] new router/listener

We should use the Queue for Remote Communication and therefore we should use Queries to get Entries from the Queue.

(instead to have a central listener that distribute the entries to the workflow processes (distributed systems!)).

Please use for the first implementation configurable timeout values

(it should be no problem to use higher values than 1 second, or?)

 

Mit freundlichen Grüßen / Kind regards

Sebastian Voigt

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From: smila-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:smila-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Ivan Churkin
Sent: Wednesday, July 30, 2008 4:12 PM
To: smila-dev@xxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [smila-dev] new router/listener

 

Hi Sebastian


Router/Listener based on new principles is working.
(Its possible to manage working threads by JMX, using multiples brokers, switching MQ implementations and specifying task execution list in configuration.)
(Its not included into main build and not used by connectivity etc.)

For testing include into workspace all new bundles from trunc
org.beanshell
org.eclipse.eilf.jms
org.eclipse.eilf.jms.activemq
org.eclipse.eilf.connectivity.queue.worker
org.eclipse.eilf.connectivity.queue.worker.test

Test it by running launch configuration
org.eclipse.eilf.connectivity.queue.worker.test/WorkerTest.launch



It was found a problem with ActiveMQ
I pushed into queue just only 2500 messages before listening
and after that consumer was unable to receive messages.
I guess that it was because now consumer collect messages synchronously in working thread
   message = _consumer.receive(TIMEOUT);
(TIMEOUT was equals to 1 sec)

I think that ActiveMQ is unable to find message in durable storage by Condition in this timeout and always return NULL!


Solutions:
1) I did TIMEOUT configurable by Rule XML tag, increase it and to forget.
2) We may try to use more fast database when Derby as ActiveMQ durable message storage.
But all that solutions are only partial.

There is totally different solution:
To get message from consumer without condition and to check Condition inside Listener.
That also helps to solve the second problem: "Condition syntax does not specified in JMS and depends on broker implementation"
In this solution condition syntax in Rules will be independent from broker implementation.

But, of course, there is also a disadvantage:
Listener will get every message from queue and, if rule will not be found, message will be send into DLQ, finally.
But I'm not sure that its a problem because its "our queue" and it should contains only "our messages".

What do you think about it?
Folks, feedbacks are appreciated :).

--
Regards, Ivan


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