The PMC has the ability to do this on the project's behalf.
I can also help.
Wayne
On 09/07/15 10:52 AM, Thomas Watson
wrote:
I believe the
committers should be retired
in this case. I think Markus just did not want to wait for that
to
happen since the project lead is also largely inactive.
Tom
From:
Wayne Beaton
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To:
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Date:
07/09/2015 09:17 AM
Subject:
Re: [rt-pmc]
[gemini-dev] Committer vote for Florian Waibel has concluded
unsuccessfully
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The EDP is unambiguous with regard to how elections
should
run.
Ideally, the inactive committers should me marked as such and
the election
re-run. Alternatively, if one of those two committers should be
convinced
to vote and the election re-run. Frankly, if the committers are
out of
contact or are unwilling to vote, then maybe it is time to
consider retiring
them.
Or, the PMC can use the notwithstanding clause:
In exceptional
situations—such
as projects with zero active committers, disruptive committers,
or no effective
project leads—the project leadership chain has the authority to
make changes
(add, remove) to the set of committers and/or project leads of
that project,
and otherwise act on behalf of the project lead.
FWIW, I can't recall ever using this in this sort of situation.
But I don't
mind some trailblazing. We'll have to make sure that we we do is
well documented.
Note that I have started the process of revising the EDP. We
have an opportunity
to make this better.
https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=463857
Wayne
On 09/07/15 08:53 AM, Thomas Watson wrote:
I'm for asking the EMO to promote
them
both to committers.
Tom
From: Markus
Knauer <mknauer@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: Runtime
Project PMC mailing list <rt-pmc@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Cc: EMO
Organization <emo@xxxxxxxxxxx>,
Gemini and sub-projects developer discussions <gemini-dev@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: 07/09/2015
04:49 AM
Subject: Re:
[rt-pmc] [gemini-dev] Committer vote for Florian Waibel has
concluded unsuccessfully
Sent by: rt-pmc-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx
I've been following the documentation starting at [1] with "The
election
process is defined in each top-level project's charter."
The RT charter itself [2] refers to the development process
document which
says:
(...) If there are at least three (3) positive votes and no
negative votes
within the voting period, the contributor is recommended to the
project's
PMC for commit privileges. If there are three (3) or fewer
committers on
the project, a unanimous positive vote of all committers is
substituted.
I have to admit I didn't know about the lower limit of three
positive votes.
I have my doubts that re-running the election after removing
inactive committers
will change anything with the election itself, to me it sounds
like unnecessary
overhead. If no one objects, I'd ask EMO if they can consider
appointing
both as committers. Any other ideas or suggestions?
Thanks,
Markus
[1] https://eclipse.org/membership/become_a_member/committer.php
[2] https://www.eclipse.org/rt/charter.php
[3] https://www.eclipse.org/projects/dev_process/development_process.php#4_7_Committers_and_Contributors
On 9 July 2015 at 09:52, Gunnar Wagenknecht <gunnar@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
wrote:
Is that an issue in the voting system or is there actually a
minimum +1
required?
I see two possibilities:
(1) Glyn marks the committers as inactive and voting is
repeated.
(2) We (the RT PMC) ask EMO to appoint the committers.
-Gunnar
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> Am 09.07.2015 um 08:12 schrieb Markus Knauer <mknauer@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>:
>
> Dear fellow RT PMC members,
>
> last week, Glyn started a committer vote for Marcos Scriven
[1] and
Florian Waibel [2] (Gemini Management + Virgo project lead) in
the Gemini
Blueprint project. Two out of 4 existing committers on the
project voted
with +1, the other two committers seem to be inactive, now I was
surprised
to receive mails about unsuccessful votes.
>
> The main idea behind the vote was to have at least *some*
active committers
on the project in order to update 3rd party dependencies and to
incorporate
some patches from the community.
>
> How can we proceed from here? Has anyone any advice?
>
> Thanks in advance,
> Markus
>
>
> [1] https://dev.eclipse.org/mhonarc/lists/gemini-dev/msg01112.html
> [2] https://dev.eclipse.org/mhonarc/lists/gemini-dev/msg01113.html
>
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: portal on behalf of Glyn Normington <portal-noreply@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> Date: 9 July 2015 at 06:02
> Subject: [gemini-dev] Committer vote for Florian Waibel has
concluded
unsuccessfully
> To: gemini-dev@xxxxxxxxxxx
>
>
> rt.gemini.blueprint Committers,
> This automatically generated message marks the completion
of the committer
> vote for Florian Waibel. Unfortunately, the vote did not
gather enough
+1s
> in the voting period, thus the vote was not successful.
>
> Vote summary: 2/0/0 with 2 not voting
> +1 Glyn Normington
> ? Olaf Otto
> +1 Dmitry Sklyut
> ? Aaron Whiteside
>
> If you have any questions, please do not hesitate to
contact your
project
> lead, PMC member, or the EMO <emo@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>
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