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Re: [polarsys-iwg] LTS and dead projects [was RE: [eclipse-scripting-dev] Reviving Eclipse Scripting project)

I confirm Mike and Gael interpretation ;-) !

 

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Pierre

 

From: polarsys-iwg-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:polarsys-iwg-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Gaël Blondelle
Sent: Thursday, August 08, 2013 4:02 PM
To: Polarsys IWG
Cc: Pascal Rapicault; scripting@xxxxxxxxxxx; Eclipse Management Organization; about@xxxxxxxxxxx; Discussions@xxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: [polarsys-iwg] LTS and dead projects [was RE: [eclipse-scripting-dev] Reviving Eclipse Scripting project)

 

Pascal,

 

De facto, LTS changes the project life-cycle. (At least in the LTS part).

 

As far as I understand the process today, a project is archived when there is no more development nor community for this project.

 

In the context of LTS, a project should be maintained in the LTS forge as long as it is used by other projects of LTS members. 

Topcased uses EclipseMonkey, so now that PolarSys is about to integrate this component, it would keep buildable and integrable in the LTS forge as long as a PolarSys user needs version in which it is integrated.

 

In your context, and as long as you are an LTS member, your need of Eclipse Usage Data Collector should be taken into account  to at least keep it available on the LTS forge.

 

I think that Pierre was mentioning that LTS and VLTS is also about industrializing archiving and retrieval of projects and making it easier to retrieve artifacts for archived projects.

 

Best regards,

Gaël 

 

Le 8 août 2013 à 14:52, Pascal Rapicault a écrit :



Mike, I’m not sure if this is ironic of not. Sorry.

Let’s take the concrete example of the Eclipse Usage Data Collector that has been archived about a year ago. How would LTS help me today assuming LTS had been in place back then?

I’m just trying to understand.

 

From: polarsys-iwg-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:polarsys-iwg-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Mike Milinkovich
Sent: August-08-13 8:38 AM
To: polarsys-iwg@xxxxxxxxxxx; Polarsys IWG; Discussions@xxxxxxxxxxx; about@xxxxxxxxxxx; scripting@xxxxxxxxxxx
Cc: Pascal Rapicault; Eclipse Management Organization
Subject: Re: [polarsys-iwg] [eclipse-scripting-dev] Reviving Eclipse Scripting project

 

Pascal,

 

I think you misunderstood Pierre. He was simply saying that LTS will hopefully make it easier to find long-dead source code in the future. 

 

Mike Milinkovich
mike.milinkovich@xxxxxxxxxxx
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From: Pascal Rapicault

Sent: Thursday, August 8, 2013 8:19 AM

To: Polarsys IWG; Discussions about scripting

Reply To: Polarsys IWG

Cc: Pascal Rapicault; Eclipse Management Organization

Subject: Re: [polarsys-iwg] [eclipse-scripting-dev] Reviving
Eclipse Scripting project

 

Not to start a debate, but LTS or VLTS imply a release. It is not a mechanism to maintain almost dead projects to life, or resurrect them J

 

From: polarsys-iwg-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:polarsys-iwg-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of GAUFILLET, PIERRE
Sent: August-08-13 7:55 AM
To: Discussions about scripting Eclipse.
Cc: polarsys-iwg@xxxxxxxxxxx; Pascal Rapicault; Eclipse Management Organization
Subject: Re: [polarsys-iwg] [eclipse-scripting-dev] Reviving Eclipse Scripting project

 

From: Eclipse Management Organization [mailto:emo@xxxxxxxxxxx] 
Sent: Wednesday, August 07, 2013 4:57 PM
To: Pascal Rapicault
Cc: Discussions about scripting Eclipse.; GAUFILLET, PIERRE; polarsys-iwg@xxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: [eclipse-scripting-dev] Reviving Eclipse Scripting project

 

On 08/07/2013 03:15 AM, Pascal Rapicault wrote:

Hi Pierre,

From your message it seems that your contribution is based on EclipseMonkey. As such I'm wondering if it would not be more suitable to revive the EclipseMonkey project (I can't remember if this was a project of its own or something else) rather than the Eclipse-scripting project.

Eclipse Monkey was a Dash component (before components all automatically became projects). It was archived a long while back. Unfortunately, I'm having some difficulty locating the archive.

 

[PGa] Interesting experience... I guess it gives sense to (V)LTS services that are under construction in LTS WG and PolarSys!

But as Arthur said, we have the latest sources of EclipseMonkey in TOPCASED so it is not really blocking: we will just loose the history.

 

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