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Re: [platform-swt-dev] Password Text
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And, now that my blood is hot on this topic, let me make a further, humbling
observation.
After nearly ten years of deployment of the Java platform with a graphics
engine built into it from the ground-up, we are consuming bandwidth on a
global basis about how to set the echo character for a text field. If that
is not a sad commentary on the state of the art after this many years, I
do not know what else there could be. But, hey, write me offline if you need
to vent.
No doubt, Frederico is a good programmer. But I would fire his boss. Anyone
in 2003 that is asking a valued and expensive programmer to write method
calls to set primitive properties is sufferring from 20 years of technical
amnesia. That's a manager I would fire on the spot. By my previous post,
a lot of work needs to be done if this is the SWT art. QED.
Guys, this is not a rant. Get real on the desktop and stop writing code to
lay out panels and effecting property state. Humans, and that includes programmers,
have a god-given and evoled miracle of a signal processor. It is your eyeball-brain
channel. Use it for drawing GUIs. Stop writing mechanical code to effect
property state or appearance in a GUI. The guys at MS got this 15 years ago.
Are we, the java community, so retarded that we think it is cool to write
setters and getters that can be effected in a single, primordial method call
during the instantiation, lifecycle and drawing of GUI?
Finally, it was a big mistake of mine to send to the list any announcements,
spec sheets or anything else related to Conga. It was a typo of mine and
I do not intend to change the signal to noise equation on this list with
off-topic items such as Conga.
-Lane
Mike_Wilson@xxxxxxxxxx wrote:
Lane,
First off, can we get off the "SWT is
not pure Java" kick. SWT is "pure Java" in exactly the same sense that AWT/Swing
is. Do you believe that the code which implements the AWT natives on a particular
window system are written in Java? In particular, AWT/Swing have *more* of
their implementation written in C than SWT does. That's one of the interesting
things about SWT, aside from a minimal operating system interface layer (which
some would argue should be directly supported by Java), *all* of SWT is written
in Java.
Secondly, it may not be the case that you
are attempting to "poach" Eclipse developers to work on Conga, but it certainly
looks that way from your message. Now, if you want to do that in a private
email to individuals on the list, that's your prerogative, but using the
SWT list for this seems inappropriate.
McQ.
Greetings Federico,
I read with interest your post below.
Take a look at the attached spec sheet for Conga and get
back with me if you would like to work with Conga. I am looking for talented
Java engineers to whom I can refer Java on the Desktop projects.
http://opendoors.com/conga
Arthur Van Hoff deserves the lion's share of the credits.
I think if you wanted to employ a really great GUI tool for Java, Conga
is hard to beat. Conga's GUI model employs only the Java graphics engine.
Conga widgets do use or subclass AWT or Swing. But they are 100% Java unlike
SWT widgets.
I would love to spend more time with you. Try Conga and let
me know if you are interested in the informal referral program. :).
Kindest regards,
--
Lane Sharmanhttp://opendoors.com Conga, GoodTimes and Application Hosting Serviceshttp://opendoors.com/lane.pdf BIO
Federico Daniel Tello Gentile wrote:
Is there any widget to input a password? (using *****
or something)
Do I have to extend Text myself? Have you seen this kind
of widget
anywhere in SWT. I'm developping for windows in a PocketPC.
Thank you!
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Lane Sharmanhttp://opendoors.com Conga, GoodTimes and Application Hosting Serviceshttp://opendoors.com/lane.pdf BIO
#### CongaSpecSheet.pdf has been removed
from this note on March 03, 2003 by Mike Wilson
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Lane Sharman
Conga Spec Sheet: http://opendoors.com/conga/2.2/docs/CongaSpecSheet.pdf
Java Software Portal: http://opendoors.com Java Software
How I expended my youth: http://opendoors.com/lane.pdf