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Re: [platform-releng-dev] Build I-200411091436 is unusable



Could we enforce that silent rebuild contributors are flagged, and then
need to send a GO before people start considering using the build ?



                                                                           
             Kim Moir                                                      
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+1

The goal is too have a stable integration build as early as possible in the
week with Tuesday as a best case scenario.  This allows people to move
forward with their work using a stable build.  The purpose of same day
rebuilds is to address serious issues that make the build unusable.  The
goal of subsequent  rebuilds later in the week as requested is to fix
problems that have workarounds or fix things that are broken but do not
render the build unusable.   It is expected that teams will indicate on the
mailing list if they intend to submit to a rebuild.

I've updated the build schedule a bit to clarify.

http://dev.eclipse.org/viewcvs/index.cgi/%7Echeckout%7E/platform-releng-home/buildSchedule.html


Kim



                                                                           
 Dorian                                                                    
 Birsan/Toronto/IBM@IBMCA                                                  
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-1

I think the process makes sense for the milestone builds, but  I find that
putting too much process around integration builds distracts us from doing
real work.
The releng project page shows two (slightly inconsistent) schedules for
integration builds, but none of them mentions the Tuesday morning as being
THE build.
|---------------+-----+-----+--------------------------------------------|
|   Build Type  | Date| Date|               Failure Policy               |
|               | (Loc| (UTC|                                            |
|               | al) |  )  |                                            |
|---------------+-----+-----+--------------------------------------------|
| 3.1           | Wed | Wed | Same day rebuild if compile errors, missing|
| Integration   | 8:00| 13:0| plugins, the build is unusable or if the   |
| builds from   | EDT | 0   | drops do not get posted.Otherwise, a       |
| *.map files if|     | UTC | rebuild will occur Thursday 8:00 EDT.      |
| requested     |     |     |                                            |
|---------------+-----+-----+--------------------------------------------|




then:
                                                                           
 Build Notes                                                               
                                                                           
 We have decided to make some minor changes in our build story in order    
 to better focus the responsibility for getting good integration builds    
 on the developers:                                                        
                                                                           
                                                                           
 For the 3.1 integration builds:                                           
 - build time is 8:00 am (Eastern time) on Tuesday mornings.               
 - in the event of an integration build failure due to compile errors,     
 missing plugins or if the drops are not posted,                           
 there will be a same day rebuild upon submission of a fix.                
 - Otherwise, there will be a rebuild at 12:00 pm Wednesday morning.       
 - in the event of a double integration build failure, all other work      
 will stop until                                                           
 guaranteed-to-be-successful build contributions are prepared for a        
 rebuild at 8:00 am Thursday morning.                                      
 - if the Thursday 8:00 am (Eastern time) integration build fails we       
 will rebuild until success                                                
 - once a good integration build is achieved, it will be marked as such    
 on the website.                                                           
 -the releng team will often request a go/no go status from all teams to   
 determine if the build is suitable for the week's testing. If you         
 provide status and then recontribute to a subsequent build, you are       
 required to revalidate the build and provide an updated status.           
                                                                           






-Dorian

                                                                           
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+1.

Each submission for a rebuild must be explained on this mailing list before
the corresponding map is updated. If no major issue is raised against a
component, that component cannot submit new code on a rebuild. It has to
wait for next integration build.

Olivier
                                                                           
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I'm a little puzzled by this rebuild.
Initially yesterday's rebuild of 14:36 should have contained ONLY the fix
for the SWT bug that made the Tuesday's 08:00 build unusable.
However a diff of the map files shows that in complement of SWT, the doc,
the platform and the udpate components submitted new content increasing the
likelyhood of breakage whereas we are seeking stability.

I think that Sonia and Kim should have the power to veto unexpected
submissions (things that have not been raised as being major issues on the
mailing list) in case of an integration rebuild.

PaScaL
                                                                           
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The build will begin at 10 am ET.

Sonia
                                                                           
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 Birsan/Toronto/IBM@IBMCA                                                  
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I have recently released a patch for cdcFoundation that serializes
platform.xml "manually", as opposed to using the standard Transformer class
from the J2SE. The comment written at the top of the file caused the xml
parser to choke.

The fix is released and ready for a rebuild.

-Dorian
                                                                           
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Please let us know when the fix for this is released, we will run a
rebuild.

Sonia
                                                                           
 Wassim Melhem/Toronto/IBM@IBMCA                                           
                                                                           
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Said build is unusable, as self-hosting is impossible.
I logged a defect against the Platform/Update component.

https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=78262

Wassim.

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