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Re: [platform-dev] [platform-swt-dev] SWT-GTK3 bugs for 4.9
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Hi,
I brought up the Gtk2 problem to openjfx-dev and there's a chance that
Oracle backports the Gtk3 fixes from Java9 to Java8.
See http://mail.openjdk.java.net/pipermail/openjfx-dev/2018-June/021988.html
Tom
On 06.06.18 09:32, Tom Schindl wrote:
> Hi,
>
> JavaFX has different components, the one we are talking about is the
> glass-layer [1]. It's the responsibility of this layer to integrate into
> the windowing system of your OS. There's implementation for each
> supported OS ranging from iOS to linux where Gtk2 is used.
>
> Tom
>
> [1]http://hg.openjdk.java.net/openjfx/8u/rt/file/4d46b5956d59/modules/graphics/src/main/native-glass
>
> On 06.06.18 08:40, Aleksandar Kurtakov wrote:
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Jun 1, 2018 at 6:13 PM, Aleksandar Kurtakov <akurtako@xxxxxxxxxx
>> <mailto:akurtako@xxxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Jun 1, 2018 at 6:02 PM, Tom Schindl
>> <tom.schindl@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:tom.schindl@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>>
>> wrote:
>>
>> For JavaFX the statement is 100% true and this means anything
>> using GEF
>> 4 and later won't work anymore.
>>
>>
>> I have no idea about that. Do you care to share technical details
>> why this is the case?
>>
>>
>> I'm really interested in hearing what the issue is but if no one care to
>> explain give links to bugzilla and etc. I wouldn't have a choice but to
>> assume this is smth that has already be fixed.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> I'd also like to state that I personally have no problem with
>> dropping
>> Gtk3 but I know many many projects who JavaFX-SWT-Interopt and
>> without
>> Gtk2 their Linux story is gone. So yes you could say I
>> exaggerated for
>> Swing but I did not for JavaFX.
>>
>> Anyways I'm not here to lobby anything but wanted to inform you that
>> this decision (which I don't question makes sense technically, man
>> powerwise, ...) could cause problems for (Eclipse) downstream
>> projects.
>>
>>
>> Furthermore, by the time this happens Java 11 (next LTS) will be out
>> so there will be LTS Java version with proper JavaFX and GTK3 story.
>> And thanks for jumping in - this is exactly the reason why this
>> mail was posted to provoke people to either step up in helping with
>> daily tasks or/and keep up their projects/products according to the
>> manpower available.
>>
>>
>>
>> Tom
>>
>> On 01.06.18 16:48, Aleksandar Kurtakov wrote:
>> >
>> >
>> > On Fri, Jun 1, 2018 at 5:42 PM, Tom Schindl <tom.schindl@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:tom.schindl@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> > <mailto:tom.schindl@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> <mailto:tom.schindl@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>>> wrote:
>> >
>> > IIRC it depends on the theme you use in swing!
>> >
>> >
>> > So in this case, it's not ruling out pre Java 9 Swing integration as
>> > it's a matter of not using Gtk LnF which should be possible to even
>> > ensure in SWT_AWT if needed. Your statement seem to be way exaggerated.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > Tom
>> >
>> > On 01.06.18 16:39, Aleksandar Kurtakov wrote:
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > On Fri, Jun 1, 2018 at 5:31 PM, Tom Schindl <tom.schindl@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:tom.schindl@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> <mailto:tom.schindl@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> <mailto:tom.schindl@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>>
>> > > <mailto:tom.schindl@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> <mailto:tom.schindl@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> <mailto:tom.schindl@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> <mailto:tom.schindl@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>>>>
>> > wrote:
>> > >
>> > > Hi,
>> > >
>> > > This means you'll rule out all pre Java9 code who
>> uses the
>> > > Swing-Integration and JavaFX? IIRC only Java9+ is
>> able to run on Gtk3.
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > I happily run SWT_AWT on OpenJDK Runtime Environment (build
>> > > 1.8.0_171-b10) so that seems to not be true.
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > Tom
>> > >
>> > > On 30.05.18 21:31, Aleksandar Kurtakov wrote:
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > > On Wed, May 30, 2018 at 9:55 PM, Eric Williams
>> <ericwill@xxxxxxxxxx <mailto:ericwill@xxxxxxxxxx>
>> <mailto:ericwill@xxxxxxxxxx <mailto:ericwill@xxxxxxxxxx>>
>> > <mailto:ericwill@xxxxxxxxxx <mailto:ericwill@xxxxxxxxxx>
>> <mailto:ericwill@xxxxxxxxxx <mailto:ericwill@xxxxxxxxxx>>>
>> > > > <mailto:ericwill@xxxxxxxxxx
>> <mailto:ericwill@xxxxxxxxxx> <mailto:ericwill@xxxxxxxxxx
>> <mailto:ericwill@xxxxxxxxxx>>
>> > <mailto:ericwill@xxxxxxxxxx <mailto:ericwill@xxxxxxxxxx>
>> <mailto:ericwill@xxxxxxxxxx <mailto:ericwill@xxxxxxxxxx>>>>> wrote:
>> > > >
>> > > > Hello everyone,
>> > > >
>> > > > 4.8 is almost done and many GTK3 bugs have
>> been fixed.
>> > For 4.9, we
>> > > > are again focusing on GTK3 bugs and
>> performance issues.
>> > > >
>> > > > If you are running SWT/Eclipse on GTK2, please
>> try with
>> > GTK3 as we
>> > > > are trying to root out all SWT bugs which
>> prevent GTK2
>> > users from
>> > > > switching to GTK3. If you already filed a bug
>> awhile
>> > ago, please
>> > > > feel free to email/CC me as a reminder -- we
>> have a
>> > backlog of old
>> > > > bugs so sometimes these things slip through
>> the cracks.
>> > > >
>> > > > We also have the 4.9 GTK3 bug tracker which
>> can be found
>> > here:
>> > > >
>> https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=535255
>> <https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=535255>
>> > <https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=535255
>> <https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=535255>>
>> > >
>> <https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=535255
>> <https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=535255>
>> > <https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=535255
>> <https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=535255>>>
>> > > >
>> <https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=535255
>> <https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=535255>
>> > <https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=535255
>> <https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=535255>>
>> > >
>> <https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=535255
>> <https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=535255>
>> > <https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=535255
>> <https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=535255>>>>
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > > It's worth noting that GTK 2 support will be
>> dropped as soon
>> > as work
>> > > > towards supporting GTK 4 starts so please stop
>> using GTK 2
>> > backend.
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > > Thanks,
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > > --
>> > > > Eric Williams
>> > > > Software Engineer - Eclipse/SWT Team
>> > > > Red Hat
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