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Re: [papyrus-rt-dev] UML Real-Time preference pages
Hi. I think we might need a preference (sub)page for codegen, but I don't like very much the idea of having a checkbox for incremental/regeneration as a preference, as the workflow for the user would be a pain. I much prefer Charle's proposal: having a button with options. The downside is that we would be adding a button to the toolbar, and if you ask me we could use with a lot less buttons there. 

Perhaps we could hear from users. @Peter, what would be better from a user perspective for code-generation? Separate menus, one menu with sub-menus? Separate buttons? A button with sub-options? Preferences?

And with respect to the name of the preference page, should it be the name of the language (UML-RT) or the name of the product (Papyrus-RT)?

@William, since the feature-freeze is no longer in effect, I'm planning on merging the CMake support as soon as we have figured out the build issues. I'm still having trouble with that. Once we have a general preferences page, perhaps you could contribute a sub-page for CMake?



 

On Thu, Jun 2, 2016 at 10:48 AM charles+zeligsoft.com <charles@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
I’m not sure that this would be the best approach for those menu items. I think I would prefer an approach similar to the build tools, i.e., a button that would do the incremental code generation by default and a sub-button that would do a regenerate - an approach similar to make / make clean, but for codegen,


Sincerely,

Charles Rivet
Senior Product Manager
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On 2016.06.02, at 10:36 , William Byrne <williamb@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

Assuming CMake makes its way into the trunk, there are a couple of parameters that could be handled via the preferences page.

And perhaps the model context menu could be reduced to a single item where regeneration (overwrite?)  is handled as a preference.

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>>> Christian Damus <give.a.damus@xxxxxxxxx> 6/2/2016 9:33 AM >>>
Yes, that’s quite annoying, actually, because those preferences and their pages are all implemented in the Xtext run-time. I’m not sure how feasible it would be to unify that. It could be reason enough to leave the Xtext editor as a top-level preference node (ugh).

cW

On 2 June, 2016 at 09:31:40, Peter Cigéhn (peter.cigehn@xxxxxxxxx) wrote:
Hi,

I guess it must be considered that the current "Umlrt" section already have the same kind of "Clear" button that is proposed:

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So to avoid confusion, some alignment will definitively be needed.

/Peter Cigéhn

On 2 June 2016 at 15:28, Ernesto Posse <eposse@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
+1 to the preferences page

and

+1 to unifying the name. 

For the preferences page, I think the Xtext preference page is contributed by Xtext itself, not our textual UML-RT feature. That feature does contribute the Umlrt page. More precisely it's the o.e.prt.xtumlrt.xtext.ui plugin that makes the contribution. 

I don't know if we should have the textual UML-RT preference page separate from the other or not. A unified page might be better, or we could have it separate. As Christian says, a bugzilla should be open.

On Thu, Jun 2, 2016 at 9:10 AM Peter Cigéhn <peter.cigehn@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Hi,

The only thing I can comment on is the name "UML Real-Time". I am not fully sure that we came to any conclusion in the Bugzilla that I wrote related to aligning terminology:

https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=491235

I am not sure if really should be spelled with a - "UML Real-Time", or combined "UML RealTime", or with space "UML Real Time". I could so far see all kinds being used. I think that this would be a good opportunity to try to settle the terminology being used. Charles indicated (implicitly) though that it should be "UML Real Time" in the response he gave on that Bugzilla.

Can we please settle this, and document the decision on that Bugzilla?

/Peter Cigéhn


On 2 June 2016 at 15:08, charles+zeligsoft.com <charles@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
+1


On 2016.06.02, at 09:07 , SCHNEKENBURGER Remi 211865 <Remi.SCHNEKENBURGER@xxxxxx> wrote:

Hi Christian,
Great idea! Setting up right now the preferences contributions would be great, as for the discussion about labels convention.
+1 for this proposal
Regards,
Rémi
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Hi, Team,
I observe that, so far, Papyrus-RT contributes no preference pages apart from those that are generated by Xtext for the xtUML-RT language (labeled as “Umlrt" [sic] in the preference dialog).
I have a need for addition of a new preference page, so I would like to discuss the presentation. In the refactoring of a simple state into a composite state, I want to prompt the user for confirmation on double-clicking a state, with the usual “don’t ask again” check box. To that end, a preference will be needed to restore the prompting.
I propose a new preference page hierarchy as follows:
  • UML Real-Time <— top-level page for all Papyrus-RT preference pages
Pretty simple, hunh?  😉
For now, the top “UML Real-Time” preference page would have only the dialog settings button as in JDT:
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except, of course, titled “UML Real-Time dialogs”. There would be a new API in which each dialog’s preference key is registered to be managed by this Clear button.
Comments? Votes?
Thanks,
Christian
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