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[papyrus-ic] [PMC] Problem with maintenance and product line

This is in relation to

It appears that a back port from Photon to the Papyrus 3.0 maintenance stream has dependencies on Photon (4.0) bundles… and the use of a unit test component has results in problems for Papyrus-RT (go read bug 531432 for more information).

The result is that it is no longer possible to build Papyrus-RT, which means that we cannot provide fixes. This has the side effect (reported by one user thus far) that it is no longer possible to install the Papyrus-RT development environment by following the instructions in the wiki. This means that currently, Papyrus-RT cannot be used as a base for further customization, as indicated by an affected external user (who may not be a user for long…).

This is an example of a “very bad thing” that could easily be called a lack of “industrialness” in Papyrus and our approach. I am hopeful that it is not worse and not a manifestation of  siloed thinking by our teams.

I do understand that, this particular problem has been going on for some time and that it has been discussed already. This should make finding a solution.

We now have a risk identified, let's work at establishing governance for this risk and implement compliance checks.

This needs to be addressed in the context of the joint PMC-Arch efforts on delivery governance and quality.

We were lucky in that this does not seem to have affected many users. We may not be as lucky next time…

If the Papyrus IC (and Papyrus product line) wants to be taken seriously, it can never happen again!

I would like to invite anyone interested in the Papyrus IC product line Delivery Governance, including the Quality Framework & Testing to contact either the Architecture Committee lead (Rémi Schnekenburger) or myself (for the Product Management Committee).


Regards / cordialement,

Charles Rivet
Senior Product Manager / directeur principal de produits - Zeligsoft
Chairman, Papyrus IC Product Management Committee / président du comité de gestion de produits du consortium industriel de Papyrus
charles@xxxxxxxxxxxxx






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