Hi,
Thanks for the responses.
>[1] Admin ui - http://www.eclipse.org/downloads/download.php?file=/equinox/drops/S-3.6RC2-201005201744/equinox-p2-agent-3.6RC2-macosx.tar.gz
This seems interesting tool. I will look it more closely next
week.
> Modifying
IU
>Since IUs are meant to be
immutable, I'm not a big fan of this idea unless the IU version is being
changed. What do you have in mind there?
We are not actually modifying the IU but its behavior in
repository, in the beginning we are simply planning to allow user to change IUs
categories in the
selected repository e.g. with details view or by drag&drop
functionality. Future shows what else might be provided with this
functionality.
- >Deleting IU ( including
deleting obsolete IUs from the repositories safely, e.g. taking care of
dependencies etc.)
>Definitely interesting. Though again this will have to be used with
big "warnings" around it since you don't want to pull out things that
are no longer used.
This functionality became an issue when we thought that how one
is supposed to delete such features (IUs) from the repository that are no
longer used. Simple
deleting the binaries is not sufficient enough because some features
or feature versions could use same plugins from plugins folder.
For example:
Feature A:
Plugin_A_1.jar
Plugin_A_1_help.jar
Feature B:
Plugin_B_1.jar
Plugin_A_1_help.jar
If I now remove feature A, it will also remove Plugin_A_1.jar
and Plugin_A_1_help.jar files, and this obviously breaks Feature B.
Now I am not sure what is the best approach to handle this issue
with P2 API. Is there already some functionality in P2 engine that would inform
me, before
the actual delete operation, that you cannot do this because it
would break plugin X?
Or am I looking this repository management issue from the wrong
angle? How have you planned that these kinds of “obsolete” features
should
be removed from the repositories without braking other features?
>Which sort of doc would you like to see
being added?
Basically, it has been very tedious to find out any information
about how P2 APIs are meant to be used (Obviously, because P2 API has not been
ready / frozen).
In the past I’ve found previous Eclipse Articles (that
contains some description, use cases and examples) very useful. I recall some
article that showed
how one can add P2 update feature to the RCP Mail application. These
sorts of example articles are quite useful to figure out real life use cases.
Best Regards, Mika Immonen
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Sent: 27. toukokuuta 2010 0:14
To: P2 developer discussions
Subject: Re: [p2-dev] How to query feature's plugins/IUs from p2
metadata?
Thanks for sharing these details. These are very interesting
functionalities, a few of which overlap with what the agent [1] (aka admin UI)
does today or use to do in the now defunct (but hopefully soon to be
resurrected analysis bundle (org.eclipse.equinox.internal.p2.ui.analysis)).
[...]
Some of its features include
+1
Since
IUs are meant to be immutable, I'm not a big fan of this idea unless the
IU version is being changed. What do you have in mind there?
- Deleting
IU ( including deleting obsolete IUs from the repositories safely, e.g. taking
care of dependencies etc.)
Definitely
interesting. Though again this will have to be used with big
"warnings" around it since you don't want to pull out things that are
no longer used.
- Other
repository management stuff
At the moment I would like to show to the users detailed
information about different IUs that they have selected from the GUI.
Currently we are showing the basic stuff like repository name,
IU name, IU version etc.
We
have some code that shows some of this in the admin UI (see attached
screenshot)
Now I would
like to show which IUs from the repository actually belongs to (are part of)
the selected IU (or feature) .
Just like they were previously listed in the feature.xml file,
when feature’s plugins were listed inside <plugins> -tag.
The
p2.ui bundle contains some logic for this. You should be able to reuse or copy
the composite or viewer that we are using there. It can be tweaked by the
Policy class.
I
think we use to have that in the analysis bundle but I'm not sure.
>Relying on the shape of the metadata
can only get you so far since the mapping between features and metadata is not
API and could be changed in the future.
We are quite familiar with the P2 API. I have been following its
progress closely since early 2009 and tested its functionality quite much. The
lack of decent
documentation / use cases has been a bit of concern to our
development team. Fortunately it has been improved over these Eclipse 3.6 M?
and RC? releases.
Which
sort of doc would you like to see being added?
I agree that it is not reasonable to rely on structure of the p2
metadata file. The QueryUtil (from import
org.eclipse.equinox.p2.query.QueryUtil package)
and its functionality seems a good starting point to retrieve
different information from the metadata but I have not quite figured it out
yet, thus
Can we use QueryUtil or what is your opinion how this
information should be retrieved?
QueryUtil
will definitely help you gather all the IUs that are groups. From there you can
get each requirement and run a query with them (e.g. QueryUtil.createMatchQuery(req.getMatches())).
This is more or less what the PermissiveSlicer and the Slicer are doing.
Best Regards, Mika Immonen
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Sent: 25. toukokuuta 2010
21:14
To: P2 developer
discussions
Subject: Re: [p2-dev] How
to query feature's plugins/IUs from p2 metadata?
Could you please tell more about what is the final goal?
Relying on the shape of the metadata can only get you so far
since the mapping between features and metadata is not API and could be changed
in the future.
I'd
need to query plugins that belong to a certain feature (defined with
<plugin>-elements on feature.xml).
My
current functionality gets the requirements with
org.eclipse.equinox.p2.metadata.getRequirements() method and then removes those
requirements that are not found as installable units on repository.
Drawback
of this approach is it lists even those requirements that are not listed as
<plugin> in the feature.xml.
The
query also lists feature itself not just the plugins. Features seem to have
(org.eclipse.update.install.features=true) filter defined on metadata, but can
I trust that all features have it and no plugin will have it?
So
in short: is it possible to get a listing of <plugin> elements defined
for a feature?
Mika
Immonen, Senior
Software Developer
Tieto Finland Oy, R&D Services
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