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Re: [osgi-wg] Introduction / Suggestion to clarify "Vision and Scope" / Membership description
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Hi Tom + Wayne,
Thanks for the clarifications and detailed insights, it much clearer now!
Am 10.11.20 um 19:57 schrieb Wayne Beaton:
I agree with Tom's assessment, so this response may just be academic/for
entertainment purposes.
There's really no notion of "moving" a project to a working group. I may
be splitting hairs...
The relationship between a working group and a specification project is
very formal. It is one-to-one. It's not strictly true to say that a
specification project is "owned" by a working group, but rather that a
specification project works under the supervision (or purview) of a
single working group. Specifically, the working group's specification
committee has a decision making responsibility (via ballot) regarding
whether or not a specification project's releases may produce a final
specification.
The relationship between a working group and a "regular old Eclipse
project" is less direct. A working group may "express interest" in any
number of Eclipse projects. The relationship is many-to-many; there
exists, potentially, many working groups that may express interest in
any particular project. Strictly speaking, a working group does not
"own" any Eclipse projects in that the working group doesn't have any
direct influence over any activity that the project engages in. A
working group influences projects by having its participant members'
employees contribute to the projects in the usual way.
What "express interest" means is really up to the working group. Many
working groups have web pages that list the projects that they are
interested in, for example.
It's also the case that the developers who have committer status on any
of projects that a working group expresses interest typically form the
constituency for committer representatives on the working group's
committees. So... if the working group were to list Eclipse Equinox as
one of its projects, the Equinox committers would join the Eclipse OSGi
project committers to form the community of committers who vote on a
representative for each of the working group committees.
I'm not trying to suggest that you want to do this; I'm only describing
what it means.
Wayne
On Tue, Nov 10, 2020 at 8:54 AM Thomas Watson <tjwatson@xxxxxxxxxx
<mailto:tjwatson@xxxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
I want to make something clear that Dan Bandera already touched on.
Equinox is an open source project that provides various
implementations of OSGi specifications, some which are used as
reference implementations. Equinox also has other technologies that
provide the core foundation for the Eclipse Project platform (e.g.
Eclipse Extension Registry). There are no plans to move Equinox to
the OSGi working group. The separation between the various OSGi
specification implementations (including Apache Felix, Apache Aries,
Knopflerfish, Eclipse Equinox etc.) and the OSGi working group that
defines the specification and compliance tests will remain separate.
Equinox will remain a viable source to provide reference
implementations of the OSGi specification, but that is no different
than the other open source projects that are not at the Eclipse
Foundation (e.g. Apache). The OSGi working group must remain open
to accepting reference implementations from any appropriately
licensed implementations. Equinox does not receive special
treatment in this regard.
Tom
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Subject: [EXTERNAL] [osgi-wg] Introduction / Suggestion to
clarify "Vision and Scope" / Membership description
Date: Tue, Nov 10, 2020 1:11 AM
Hello everyone,
as working for over ten years with OSGi in own projects and
supporting
customer in their success with it as a freelancer I'm also
interested to
join the new OSGi Working Group also.
One suggestion for the charter:
In the "Vision and Scope" section I think it would be good to
clarify
what's the difference between "OSGi Working Group" and "OSGi
Specification Project" its a bit unclear how they relate, how they
differ because of the similar naming I can see that they might
be confused.
I also think at least a small note about the "Eclipse Equinox"
project
should be added as it already has provided OSGi Technology for
years now
but seems to have adopted several aspects (DS, Console, ...)
from the
Apache Felix Framework, so one might ask if it is planned for
Equinox to
be collected under the new WG.
About the Membership section:
As OSGi Alliance already offers Membership to participate in OSGi
Technology I think the following points should be described here:
- How does "Eclipse OSGi Working Group" Membership differs form the
"OSGi Alliance" one? Do they relate in any way, e.g. if I'm
member of
Eclipse OSGi WG will this maybe include "OSGi Alliance" membership
- If not why should I choose the one over the other? Or would it be
preferable to be member in both?
- What are the additional benefits of the "Eclipse OSGi Working
Group"
best regards
Christoph
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