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Re: [mylyn-dev] Fishtail - Using task context to automate web searches
Thanks for the initial feedback guys. Sorry for the delay on getting back to you, it's been a busy week with democamp here in town. I've made some significant changes to the searching algorithm which directs it much more at the class you're interacting with. In my initial tests I've been finding this produces much more detailed search results, and hope you will find the same.
Eugene, the choice to make this a separate view was based on our goal to get the tool publicly available as fast as possible. Though in principle your suggestion of using the dynamic help or context search view makes some sense, I'm not really convinced that that would address the overall theme of your e-mail which seems to be one of saving screen real estate. In the amount that I've looked over people's shoulders to see the layout of their workbench on a day-to-day basis, I have yet to see somebody that leaves either view open. Either way, I see that as a possibility, but not something that's necessary at this point in time.
Your final point about Mylyn having support for tracking external resources I see to be a completely orthogonal issue to our research question regarding the import of relevant web resources into the workbench. This tool doesn't make any attempt to manage or track Web resources, nor does it make any distinction between what information is webpage based or wiki-based or ...
Lubos, your comments about considerable slowdown of the workbench is a significant concern. As I was revising the search algorithm I noticed some unnecessary processing that was happening in the UI thread. I've addressed this issue and hope that clears up the performance issue, but if it doesn't I'd really be interested to know what kind of a setup you're running (could be an operating system specific issue). I haven't seen these sorts of issues. I'm glad to hear that you'd be willing to try it again.
Another thing that caught me was that you were looking for better Mylyn integration... Were you referring to better search results, or are you thinking of another aspect that the tool presently doesn't address? 

Cheers.
Nathan

Lubos and Alena Pochman wrote:
I also installed the plugin and ran it for couple of days. I do not see any usefulness yet either, and I noticed considerable slowdown of Eclipse actions like selections, cursor movement etc. So I just uninstalled the plugin (it was slowing me too much on quite powerful laptop (3G dual core Intel). But the idea has a promise and I would be willing to try it again (as I did with Mylar several times ;-) 
when it becomes more efficient and more useful.
Nathan, keep it going, I am looking forward to new updates and better Mylyn integration. 

Lubos
On Dec 5, 2007 3:06 PM, Eugene Kuleshov <eu@xxxxxxxx <mailto:eu@xxxxxxxx>> wrote: 

    Hi Nathan,

     I've played a little with this tool but didn't noticed any relevance
    between my task context and search results suggested by this view, so I
    am not sold on the usefulness yet. :-)

     Besides, there are several UI-related things.

     First of all, it is completely unnecessary to have borders around
    widgets that are put in the view. Compare it, for example, with standard
    Eclipse view, i.e. Problems or History view and because screen real
    estate is limited it would be useful to be able to disable the
    description area and provide better markup in the tooltip for search
    results.

     Also, after looking at this view for some time I started to wonder why
    does it have to be a separate view? There is already Help / Dynamic help
    view, which seem a really good candidate for this sort of search
    results. More over, there is also Mylyn's own Active Search view, that
    might be another good candidate to plug in this tool into.

     Another interesting aspect is that Mylyn does have core support for
    tracking external resources, such as web pages with the task context.
    Unfortunately in my understanding it been left out for commercial tools
    to provide UI for that. So developer tools are lacking support of
    managing or tracking such resources, but it would be really useful for
    developers to have list of web resources or wiki pages along with the
    sources relevant to the active task, i.e. show those resources right in
    the Project Explorer view or on a special tab in the Task Editor.

     regards,
     Eugene


    Nathan Hapke wrote:
     > Are you constantly searching the web for resources as you program?
     > (E.g.: Are you searching for information about how to integrate with
     > Eclipse?)
     >
     > Gail Murphy and I have been working on a new tool, Fishtail, which
     > uses the context of a currently active Mylyn task to formulate web
     > searches about the code of interest. Searches are performed for a
     > variety of categories, such as articles, tutorials, and examples of
     > code use. The goal is to bring web resources into the development
     > environment as you work, so that information is readily available
    when
     > you need it.
     >
     > It is available at:
    http://www.cs.ubc.ca/labs/spl/projects/fishtail/
    <http://www.cs.ubc.ca/labs/spl/projects/fishtail/>
     >
     > If you have any comments or feedback, please contact me via email at
     > nhapke@xxxxxxxxx <mailto:nhapke@xxxxxxxxx>.
     >
     > Cheers,
     >
     > Nathan

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